what team orders? Do you really think McLaren told Alfonso to sit and prevent their own driver (Hamilton) from qualifying? Theres been no problem with holding drivers to feed them into space before, shit even Ferrari came out and defended McLaren by saying they routinely release their drivers so that they feed into space and not traffic. Every team does it and they always have, no matter what the driving standards director said.

They held Alfonso so he would go into space, thats common. But Alfonso then held himself longer for whatever reason. So punishing Alfonso I can understand, but then stripping points from McLaren just doesn't make much sense to me.

Telling Hamilton to let Alfonso pass in early Q3 is also no problem.

This is qualifying, who gives a shit what team orders are going around. Theres no contrived results ala Ferrari in Austria

I can understand stripping points if McLaren had prevented another team's car from qualifying, but there was no disadvantage other than to their own team.

Why wasn't Ferrari stripped of points when Schumacher parked it at Monaco? That prevented other teams qualifying, ok it was Schumacher and not the team, but then the problem arose because of Alfonso and not the team.

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Originally posted by Omega_M punished for issuing team orders ?

you confuse team tactics with team orders. Its annoying that FIA messes with things that should be dealt inside the team. I bet its only cause it involves the 2 top drivers

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I wish the stewards had left it up to the team to deal with Hamilton and Alanso. They didn't put anybody in danger, didn't break any rules, just sabotaged themselves.

Race was boring of course. I watched the first 15 laps, then drifted away to Dreamsville.

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Originally posted by Orko I wish the stewards had left it up to the team to deal with Hamilton and Alanso. They didn't put anybody in danger, didn't break any rules, just sabotaged themselves.

Now FIA would penalise teams if one driver is allowed to go and pee before other driver of their team

If FIA intervenes like this in every matter, no team is going to like it

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Originally posted by Orko I wish the stewards had left it up to the team to deal with Hamilton and Alanso. They didn't put anybody in danger, didn't break any rules, just sabotaged themselves. Race was boring of course. I watched the first 15 laps, then drifted away to Dreamsville.

They treated it as any other driver impending an other driver, irrespective if they were teammates or not. Seems reasonable to prevent team orders by limiting an other driver which we have seen in the past.

About next race, I'm doing a wild guess that Massa will win it. Alonso, Kimi and Hamilton all have won 3 races this season so I suppose it's now Massa's turn. Seems very likely as the Ferrari's are faster than the Mclaren's on "normal" circuits like the upcomming tracks.

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Last edited by Timothy on Aug-07-2007 at 18:11

Ferraris were fast or atleast equal to Mclaren in Hungary too
Kimis fastest lap being so close to Hamilton proves that
I guess they have a performance problem in first few laps of fresh tyres

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Originally posted by Rahi Nikki Cox , Premium Clip! ...

Fuck you SPAM!

Kimi said he purposely made some space between his and Lewis's car on the last lap of the HUNGARY GP to see what he and his car were capable of. And he had the fastest lap of the race on the last lap

So that proves Ferrari had quiet a strong car. They need to imrpove their qualifying performance to make things a little bit easy for their drivers

Ferrari had bad tyre warming issues in the Hungaroring.. apparently it took a bunch of laps to get them to a reasonable temperature and pace.

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I went to see BMW Sauber Pit Lane Park here in Warsaw. There were so many people waiting in line its not even funny, I got luck I only waited 1.5 hours and it was on a friday morning, others that came later or another day waited 4 hours

notice the jackass with the BMW body painting his little son/grandson had it too

the main attraction







Chris Pfeiffer was awesome ^

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wow

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