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infinity HiGH
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

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Originally posted by The17sss
Now this one... WOW. 6 minutes but worth the watch as it shows a town go from dry to utterly destroyed in stages. It starts off looking like some harmless rainwater spilling down a normal city street. By the 2nd minute cars are floating. By minute 3, it's like a class 5 rapids 10 feet high... and by minute 5, entire buildings have been dislodged and are being carried away!

http://m.gizmodo.com//5781566/this-...pan-tsunami-yet


lol i think this is the 3rd or 4th time this video is posted in this thread. absolutely mental though. midway through it you think it can't get any worse but it just doesn't stop. mind-boggling

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Originally posted by shaw
Doesn't have to be homogenous to convince people to move in an orderly fashion when beneficial. Like I said, NYC is a perfect example.

Yes, Tokyo, especially, is still on another level. Due to environment or society? I don't know. It's still interesting. Inb4thatoneintersection

Not to pull too much of a "parachute from planes," but isn't there some way to prevent against such enormous devastation from tsunamis? Giant robot walls would be awesome (it is Japan), but are there any practical solutions? Examples?


A network of underground tunnels to channel the excess water into?

Old Post Mar-14-2011 21:45  Poland
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jester
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Registered: Oct 2003
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Groundzero

Use this mapplet to see what a nuclear disaster would look like for Fukushima nuclear plant, 3 reactors go. All 3 reactors combine put out like a 2 GW, not sure how that would equal in tons.


I checked out a 50 Mt nuke and it doesn't look so good for anyone within 40 km of the plant, best bet people better be 100 km away if this thing decides to really go KABOOM.

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any news on the reactors or the aftershocks of tsunamis?

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Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by jester
Groundzero

Use this mapplet to see what a nuclear disaster would look like for Fukushima nuclear plant, 3 reactors go. All 3 reactors combine put out like a 2 GW, not sure how that would equal in tons.


I checked out a 50 Mt nuke and it doesn't look so good for anyone within 40 km of the plant, best bet people better be 100 km away if this thing decides to really go KABOOM.




You can't relate this at all. A nuclear weapon works in a totally different fashion than this.

A meltdown is a problem because of the pressure it can build up inside the reactor vessel. If that pressure is unable to be released you can have a catastrophic failure of the containment vessel and the reactor itself will be blown to bits by the pressure inside. Its NOT a nuclear explosion.

The type of fuel inside a reactor is not weapons grade (most of the time, unless its a plutonium breeding reactor, but even then the amounts are so low and in such a low density it doesn't matter). Uranium fuel, or MOX (which is a mix of Uranium and reclaimed weapons grade plutonium) can not reach critical mass, they just come close (but that is very relative, close is not even near what it would take to create a run-away criticality).

So please, do not scare monger with links like that. The possible destruction, physically, by these reactors having a catastrophic failure is not even close to a 50MT nuclear explosion. You can not even begin to comprehend the differences (I am talking about, a fireball many miles in diameter, people getting instant third degree burns 30-40 miles away, blast damage stretching for hundreds of kilometers). The only comparable area would be on fallout, which is radioactive material that is taken into the atmosphere and deposited many miles away, irradiating those areas for potentially long periods of time.

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Regarding the nuclear issues, this is a really good (albeit long) read, about what is happening at the plant over there.

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/...le-explanation/


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- There was another explosion in the No. 2 reactor.
- They have detected abnormal radiation levels in a town south of the reactors.
- The Japanese govt. is now saying that No. 2 reactor might be leaking, saying the outter containment could be cracked/damaged.
- NHK says 2.7m of a fuel rod is exposed. not good.


Also, the USGS has updated the quake from an 8.9 to a 9.0. Japan's EQ agency also upgraded from their 8.8 measurement to a 9.0.

In the future, it will be referred to as the as Japan's Tohoku Earthquake.

also...

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Meltdown alert at Japan reactor

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Sorry I've been away in mormon land utah but haven't been completely disconnected from the news, so I know about the earthquake, the tsunami, and the nuclear reactor meltdown...but now a volcano erupts in the south?

Did I miss that part in this thread or is the nuclear reactor meltdown more of a hot topic to discuss. Either way, shit's popping off and the world is about to assplode.


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every time there's another explosion at the nuclear plant Nou tells us its not really that bad.

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every time there's another explosion at the nuclear plant Nou tells us its not really that bad.


Well, he's pretty much right.


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quote:
Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
Sorry I've been away in mormon land utah but haven't been completely disconnected from the news, so I know about the earthquake, the tsunami, and the nuclear reactor meltdown...but now a volcano erupts in the south?

Did I miss that part in this thread or is the nuclear reactor meltdown more of a hot topic to discuss. Either way, shit's popping off and the world is about to assplode.



The volcano near Kyushu has been active for like the last month and a half, they were talking about it on the news when I was over there a week ago or so.

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