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| quote: | Originally posted by fantom
Speaking of war, whoever was asking for a few reasons against the war, well how about 20 of them! Here's a repost of an article posted in Political Discussions Forum by Mental Exodus, regarding the 20 lies by Bush and his administration. You might wanna spend a few minutes and read it, because it sure sheds some light on certain points you people have been arguing around here:
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The twenty lies of George W. Bush
By Patrick Martin
20 March 2003
Monday night’s 15-minute speech by President Bush, setting a 48-hour deadline for war against Iraq, went beyond the usual distortions, half-truths, and appeals to fear and backwardness to include a remarkable number of barefaced, easily refuted lies.
The enormous scale of the lying suggests two political conclusions: the Bush administration is going to war against Iraq with utter contempt for democracy and public opinion, and its war propaganda counts heavily on the support of the American media, which not only fails to challenge the lies, but repeats and reinforces them endlessly.
Without attempting to be exhaustive, it is worthwhile listing some of the most important lies and contrasting Bush’s assertions with the public record. All of the false statements listed below are directly quoted from the verbatim transcript of Bush’s remarks published on the Internet.
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This is just rediculous. This is no more propaganda than CNN. It is grossly exaggerated and most of it is pure speculation and the auther's interpretation and opintion of the government's motives. And it really isn't even all that convincing. And as Durafei pointed out one of his assumptions has already been proven wrong. People, just because something is left wing, just because you found something from a source other than CNN, just because you happened to find some 'alternative press' doesn't make it any less biased and doesn't necessarily make it accurate.
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
heh whoa brutal.. this sounds like one of those "you just got OWNED" rebuttals..
i guess at this point many people on the boards are basing a lot of their comments on hearsay , but when someone actually experiences it, that gives it a lot more credibility.. |
Hardly. i have my own examples too. I am sure most of the people on this board have their own personal experiences. I have friends who went to harvard, i have moderately intelligent friends who took those American SAT's and scored in the 90th percentiles without taking any of those silly prep test i hear americans do, i know a number of Americans who came to my university (one of the worst reputations in Canada too mind you) and couldn't handle the workload. But that doesnt prove anything.
I don't think we were even arging about high schools, so I really don't know why little princess thought her example was relevant. But i mean I wasnt educated at Stanford or Georgetown so i might have missed something...
In any case, in the past Ontario high schools have been highly criticised. Ontario high schools consistantly placed at the bottom of the pack in interprovincial testings. However over the past 5 to 10 years significant changes have been made at every grade and the entire primary and secondary curiculum has undergone a drastic facelift. As a matter of face next year will mark the elimination of the grade 13 level. (which is probably one of the reasons she witnessed a difference in the course material, until now we have had one more year of high school) Some tests though still put students behind those in other Canadian provinces. It may take some time for teachers and students alike to adjust to the new changes.
I dont think many people would argue about high school standards. Universities, on the other hand are VERY different from high schools here in Canada and the drop out rates in most programs are staggering. Most programs here are very difficult and very demanding.
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Good for you guys.
