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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well then, if these poll results are so conclusive and important, why don't you take them and get that 2nd investigation started?

He's already done the investigation PKC!

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Originally posted by culorut Who's really wearing tinfoil hats? A little upset you are on the losing end of the stick after all these years? Yes 214 58.95% No 149 41.05%

I voted yes when I thought this thread was a joke, and now I can't change it to "No."

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Yes.


Representative Of Largest 9/11 Families Group Says Government
Complicit In Attack
Tells radio host 9/11 Commission a sham, "cover-up beyond belief"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...ntcomplicit.htm


Documentaries, then text documents and articles.

9/11: Press for Truth
This documentary primarily focuses on the Jersey Girls and their
efforts to even get the 9/11 commission to happen, and their search
for answers in what happened.
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Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
This documentary focuses entirely on prior knowledge and criminal negligence
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911 Mysteries Part 1
This documentary focuses entirely on the questions of the collapse of
the buildings. It was written and put together by a former Bush
supporter, and demolitions enthusiast, who was so enraged when he saw
one of the original documentaries on 9/11 (painful deceptions) he set
out to disprove it, and what he found shook him to his core.
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Improbable Collapse: The Demolition of Our Republic
This documentary dissects information put forth to explain the
collapse of the buildings by NIST and FEMA, and shows the logical
fallacies in their presentations
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Now the documents and articles that will shake you to your core.


First and foremost, meet the whistle blowers
http://www.nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSWBC-911Comm.htm


unanswered questions by victims families
http://911independentcommission.org/questions.html
http://www.911truth.org/article.php...041026093059633


Paul R Thompsons complete 9/11 timeline, pieced together, by
mainstream articles.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...ect=911_project


All 115 9/11 commission report omissions and distortions with page footnotes
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/571-page-lie.htm


NIST in violation of the Data Quality Act
http://www.muckraker-report.org/id265.htmll


FBI says, "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11"
http://www.muckraker-report.org/id267.html


FAA evidence destroyed
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...6¬Found=true



Operation Nortwoods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf


Firefighters engineering responds to NIST's "investigation"
http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Arti...TICLE_ID=131225


kevin ryan's internal letter within underwriters laboratories
http://www.septembereleventh.org/ne...-11-11-ryan.php


Odigo warns workers
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/...ml?itemNo=77744


Investigative Reporter Breaks new 9/11 Foreknowledge
http://www.infowars.net/articles/de.../071206Haas.htm
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id324.html



scott forbes talking about powerdowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcUQg3DadaA
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/1...-interview.html


Bush saying he saw first plane hit tower that morning (when the video
of the first plane didn't come out until the next day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q


Firefighter saying bomb in building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C26k0nCE1_M


View of a military expert: why the towers collapsed
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier5.htm


Osama index
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/b...9-11_truth.html


a fake osama tape?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html


Why Indeed Did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?,
PDF Version
http://worldtradecentertruth.com/vo...elyCollapse.pdf

Central colums ommitted from comission report?
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/


NORAD standing DOWN??
http://standdown.net/
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/


WTC7
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html
http://www.studyof911.com/articles/winstonwtc701/


Hijackers still alive?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/1559151.stm


Norman mineta's testimony censored
http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...onycensored.htm


Prominent US and non US government officials question official story of 9/11
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

Architecths and Engineers for 9/11 truth
http://www.ae911truth.org

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Yes.

Do YOU have anything to say or just a bunch of links that I won't be looking at?

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Originally posted by Krypton Do YOU have anything to say or just a bunch of links that I won't be looking at?

Is there anything in particular that you would like to discuss with me about it?

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Originally posted by iTranscendence Is there anything in particular that you would like to discuss with me about it?

Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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You refer to that as though it's a bad thing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

I'm watching you right now through one of your 6 million+ cctv cameras, in fact, your gov is paying me to spy on you ;-).

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

Really?

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Originally posted by iTranscendence I'm watching you right now through one of your 6 million+ cctv cameras, in fact, your gov is paying me to spy on you ;-).

Ok, I have an honest question regarding the lies, distortions, half-truths and woeful inferences you’ve quoted at length above.

Re the fire fighters and “bombs in the buildings”: Why do you put such stock in the honest mistakes made by fire fighters under tremendous and extraordinary conditions, even though such claims have been shown (repeatedly) to be false, in all the information that surfaced after the fact? Do you not feel dishonest at all? Conspiracy theorists thrive on the misinformation available during something like a terrorist attack- it doesn’t matter if such information is subsequently shown to be false, you’ll still be repeating that information 8 fucking years later.

Why do you have such a problem with basic reasoning?

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Ok, I have an honest question regarding the lies, distortions, half-truths and woeful inferences you’ve quoted at length above. Re the fire fighters and “bombs in the buildings”: Why do you put such stock in the honest mistakes made by fire fighters under tremendous and extraordinary conditions, even though such claims have been shown (repeatedly) to be false, in all the information that surfaced after the fact?

And yet, you bring absolutely nothing but a bunch of platitudes hyperbole and psuedo-intellectual psycho-analysis of me and my state of mind. There were giant marble slabs blown across the lobby when the firefighters got in there and there is film of it from the french documentary producers who were with the FDNY Unit on the morning of 9/11.

Furthermore there has been plenty of eyewitness testimony to the massive amounts of molten steel by the firefighters as well, one went so far as to call it a molten foundry. But I'm sure you believe that refined kerosene (jet fuel) could actually cause something like that to happen. Or even more preposterously, actually believe the friction of the building falling; of which there was very little could actually cause massive amounts of steel to melt. Steel that stayed molten underneath ground zero and was in excess of 1300 degrees at some points in the rubble from heat maps taken by NASA satellites 4 weeks later.

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