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Originally posted by tu_face we english folk may joke about hating u yankees.. but this one calls for us to close ranks

100+ English citizens (UK) were killed in this attack. This isn't just backing someone up, this is also defending/protecting people of your own country, whether the attack was in the UK or the US.

fuckin ragheads
now i gotta go to the middle esat and go bomb the shit outta there capital

Many comparing the lives lost during battle between the US and foriegn countries and those lost in NYC (Saying the US had this coming to them). It is like comparing apples to oranges. Not the lives lost themselves, but the reasons and intent behind the loss of those lives. General Norman Schwarzcoff (however you spell his name) did and interview. At the end of his interview he said this.

During the golf war, American soldier's went out of there way to avoid the killing of innocent civilians, even so much as to indanger there own lives to avoid the loss of the innocent. The bastards who did this, targeted and attacked innocent civilians and that is what's make us different from them."

Violence is inevitable, that's the real world. The loss of innocent lives during war is reality too. The *intent* to target and kill innocent people who have absolutely no part in the situation is not the real/our world. That is the world of terrorists and those who support them. *NOW* is the time for those people to be eradicated, and I hope President Bush uses whatever means necessary to accomplish that task (with the support/help from the Rest of the free world).

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Originally posted by justin fuckin ragheads now i gotta go to the middle esat and go bomb the shit outta there capital

no need to be derogatory man! and not all people that wear turbins are terrorists.

capital of the middle east? heh...theres more than one country in the middle east...so far the only country that's involved is afghanistan for harbouring bin laden.

first of all let me star off by saying: that it is never right for innocent civilians to loose their lives!!!!!!!!

BUT lets be real! America's foreigh policies have directly left millions of people dead. They bomb sovereign nations, support terrorists when it is in their interest and American people are so oblivious to everything else that goes on. (Remember that little war in Bosnia, well the states supported Muslims (and Bin Laden soldiers directly!) and made Serbs into the bad guys. I don't blame people for thinking the way they do because of a very biased media here, that tends to greatly simplify things! but for God's sake educate yourselfs!!!!!!

This event that occured in NY is MINIMAL(I repeat: MINIMAL) compared to stuff that the states did. Its just that you never see any of this stuff. I have seen worse terror than this with my own EYES.

Now i am not supporting these terrorists but you have realize that What you experienced on sep 11 some people live with everyday. think about that!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by onE24-7 first of all let me star off by saying: that it is never right for innocent civilians to loose their lives!!!!!!!! BUT lets be real! America's foreigh policies have directly left millions of people dead. They bomb sovereign nations, support terrorists when it is in their interest and American people are so oblivious to everything else that goes on. (Remember that little war in Bosnia, well the states supported Muslims (and Bin Laden soldiers directly!) and made Serbs into the bad guys. I don't blame people for thinking the way they do because of a very biased media here, that tends to greatly simplify things! but for God's sake educate yourselfs!!!!!! This event that occured in NY is MINIMAL(I repeat: MINIMAL) compared to stuff that the states did. Its just that you never see any of this stuff. I have seen worse terror than this with my own EYES. Now i am not supporting these terrorists but you have realize that What you experienced on sep 11 some people live with everyday. think about that!!!!!!!!

man, you cant just be saying stuff like that without proof..you'll piss off a lot of people..but i know at least some of that stuff is true, and there's no doubt that the U.S. has done some shady things.

but along the same lines, my friend was saying that the footage of the palestinian people celebrating was recorded at an earlier date, and that they were celebrating something else. he says that footage is just being used to gather support for war, which isn't totally out of question, because if you'll notice, they only played ONE clip over and over again...why didn't they record clips in other areas? i haven't made up my mind about this yet though

*100th post* (finally)

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Originally posted by onE24-7 first of all let me star off by saying: that it is never right for innocent civilians to loose their lives!!!!!!!! BUT lets be real! America's foreigh policies have directly left millions of people dead. They bomb sovereign nations, support terrorists when it is in their interest and American people are so oblivious to everything else that goes on. (Remember that little war in Bosnia, well the states supported Muslims (and Bin Laden soldiers directly!) and made Serbs into the bad guys. I don't blame people for thinking the way they do because of a very biased media here, that tends to greatly simplify things! but for God's sake educate yourselfs!!!!!! This event that occured in NY is MINIMAL(I repeat: MINIMAL) compared to stuff that the states did. Its just that you never see any of this stuff. I have seen worse terror than this with my own EYES. Now i am not supporting these terrorists but you have realize that What you experienced on sep 11 some people live with everyday. think about that!!!!!!!!

MINIMAL!!! ur fucking nutz man!!!..this is the largest form of terrorism ever occurred in modern times mayb ever!!! as we can date... See everyone espect US to be 100% perfect ...if they do something no matter what it will offend one group if it does the other it will offend the other group....nothing the US does will make them happy.... its like we have to be 100% right on everything we do...but yet ******s bomb us killing thousands of people and there are explanations and reason for this!!! u know what FUCK THEM!!! im serious tired of us...we pore fuckin trillions of dollars to these countries down there to help them and support them..and the good things out weight by a margin the bad things we have done ...... buyt yet its always fucking US deserves this and US kills people...thats suck a Bullshit!! im not saying our government is perfect at any means.... but we do a lot of good for many countries and help them out whenever there is a problem or natural diasters around we come to aid....... so many countries are in debt literally in debt with money to us but we never ask for it back....... its about time some people give this country some respect .... i dont mean european countries but i mean many of these countries in middle east...... beleive it or not ..Middle east would be a lot worse if we didnt come to aid for many of these problems down there......if we didnt come in .... Iraq woudl fight with Iran and kuwait would fight with iraq, palestians and ireals would be in some shit..and it would be a bigger blood shed then what it is now!!! ....so give some damn respect ...cuz im tired of many people blaming US for every little fucking Bullshit in the world..but yet they want our help but when we help they fucking complain!!!!!! ... im sorry people im just pissed!


and about media...hmmm lets see what media would be more currupt here ...media in arab nations which is totally controlled by the government or media here in the US which is totally not regulated as the content by the government..... be more logical if your trying to bring a logical opinion here..... the progoganda in the middle east countries is so severe thats a large reason why the people hate the US ..for a big reason....... Hussan ...had a militart facility filled with innocent people so when we bombed the place it would killed all those people so he had a reason to make the people fight for him agaist the US..... so dont talk crap about propoganda in this country when these middle eastern countries have a serious propoganda agenda to really make the people hate the us....Hitler did it with the german people.....when they invaded poland!....

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it's 1:20 am here, im watching the news and they're reporting sum freaky shit..

that guy they arrested in germany...the germans put him thru to the white house or the secret service so they could talk to him, and it seems he told them that MORE fatal attacks are imminent, and that these attacks would "change the world order"...i swear to God im not making this up, i saw this abt. 30 mins. ago on msnbc LIVE..BUT they said its an UNCONFIRMED report....

another UNCONFIRMED report from the phillipines is that the US embassy there in manila was also a target...they had planned to bomb it on the same day as they bombed the WTC...thank God it didn't happen...

peace

I see so much patriarchal stuff here but Americans have to ask themselves why they are so haded over their, Yeah there is major propaganda and media distortion but you have to take a step back and have a good broad look at what has gone on in the past.

Yeah America helps, when it is in their own interest to do so, like in the late 1970’s when Russia invaded Afghanistan, America gave aid and weapons to Afghanistan so they could defeat Russia, and once that was achieved, they abandoned Afghanistan, even imposing sanctions on them. The US taught the Afghanistan people to fight, and then left them, to it, just because they supported anybody that opposed the USSR at this time.
Yeah the USA gives aid to lots of countries but there is not much mention in these threads to the amounts of economic and trading sanctions the US has imposed on these countries keeping them down. (This would piss them off wouldn’t it!)

Pakistanis’ are putting their ass on the line in helping the US, with so many Muslims residing in Pakistan
If USA do go after bin larden (and they should) they should educate the Paskistani public on the reasons why bin larden is accused and give proof of it!!!, because at the moment these people idolise bin larden and believe he is a hero, this war has to be fought with intelligence not bruit force, if you use force it will just show more easterners

I just saw an interview with Bin Larden on TV and he is declaring war on USA, man he is telling his people to kill all Americans, this guy is fucked up, intent on war and his purpose in life is to bring down USA, the west , all in the name of Ali…. RELIGION SUX!!!!!!!!!!

Enough said,
I don’t want to offend anybody just some things to think about

Woa this is some heavy stuff, I better make it in to college so I don't get drafted. I'm pretty upset, but I'm sure the country is doing a great job dealing with it and fixing everything, after watching TV for a while I realised a lot more people believed in God then I thought did. Anywhoo, im jsut gonna stop talking now before I say something stupid.

It is almost certainly that Iraq is involved in this terrorism attack. Sadam has maybe a big part in this whole tragedy. I don't like Iraq. If they were part in this whole story then the US can bomb some economic targets there too

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