Originally posted by Az
I was waiting for this one, a true sign that someones defeated, the "do better yourself" argument
pathetic
lol, i awas just curious because i think its a shame how full of hate towards some producers you are when your not even a producer yourself. i think the "do better yourself" argument is quite relevant
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Dec-21-2004 19:01
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
lol, i awas just curious because i think its a shame how full of hate towards some producers you are when your not even a producer yourself. i think the "do better yourself" argument is quite relevant
So you like every song ever made, because you can't do any better? That's a shit argument if ever there was one.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
In the end, it's a matter of opinion. Which is why this thread has, all in all, been a total waste of time.
Opinion and taste has to do with it, yes. But it's not only a matter of opinion. Otherwise there would be no distinguishing Brian Eno from Yanni, no difference in quality between Sasha and Lasgo. That's patently false. Because there is some measure of quality independent of opinion alone.
Dec-21-2004 19:05
Ory
I like big... robots
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Stockholm
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So you like every song ever made, because you can't do any better? That's a shit argument if ever there was one.
Yeah, let's only post nice opinions about tracks and producers. Happy, happy, happy! ^_^ ^_^
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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.
Dec-21-2004 19:06
Az
took me all the way back
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
lol, i awas just curious because i think its a shame how full of hate towards some producers you are when your not even a producer yourself. i think the "do better yourself" argument is quite relevant
and where on earth did you hear this?
Dec-21-2004 19:07
d-miurge
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Unicornland
My track (in the sig) had been played by Perry O'Neil, I think that Perry doesn't play McProg...
Dec-21-2004 19:10
Az
took me all the way back
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics
quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge
My track (in the sig) had been played by Perry O'Neil, I think that Perry doesn't play McProg...
Perry both makes and plays McProg
your tune however isn't that, it's half decent, congrats
Dec-21-2004 19:12
Mike_Foyle
Two colours in my head
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So you like every song ever made, because you can't do any better? That's a shit argument if ever there was one.
lol no not at all, i dont like alot of music, no matter how good it is technically, but i dont hate the people who made it just because i dont like it.. thats what my point is
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Dec-21-2004 19:17
Az
took me all the way back
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
lol no not at all, i dont like alot of music, no matter how good it is technically, but i dont hate the people who made it just because i dont like it.. thats what my point is
I hate inferior music, I don't necessarily have a personal hatred of the producers. Some, but not all
Dec-21-2004 19:19
Mike_Foyle
Two colours in my head
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK
well i guess it came across wrong, some people in here are saying they want to see markus dead, and that all "mc prog" producers should die. I hate alot of music to, i can relate to your argument a bit more easily now, but i still think alot of people in here have a really bad attitude about it all.
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Dec-21-2004 19:21
noikeee
dubstep convert
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: lost and wandering looking for directions.
quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Opinion and taste has to do with it, yes. But it's not only a matter of opinion. Otherwise there would be no distinguishing Brian Eno from Yanni, no difference in quality between Sasha and Lasgo. That's patently false. Because there is some measure of quality independent of opinion alone.
I think it's even more subjective than that. One could argue that Lasgo is better than Sasha because it's more fun. We probably could only argue that Sasha is better than Lasgo because it's deeper or possibly because it's more original. It depends on the point of view and what attribute is used to measure quality.
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Dec-21-2004 19:22
UWM
mandroid
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
well i guess it came across wrong, some people in here are saying they want to see markus dead, and that all "mc prog" producers should die. I hate alot of music to, i can relate to your argument a bit more easily now, but i still think alot of people in here have a really bad attitude about it all.
I think they're using hyperbole, mate. I doubt anyone actually has desires for them to die.