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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
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Once again, I'm not advocating attacks on schools, but be wary of the mass media's persistent use of the word "children". Many (not all, obviously) of these so-called children are part of the militant groups.


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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by evil_cookie
disgusting.
absolutely disgusting.

I can only pray that these mother ******s can one day watch their own kids and family members die in front of them.

absolutely fucking disgusting.

they do. whenever a rocket hits a neighbourhood. or when suicide bomber blows up in a cafe. etc. (obviously not to degree that the palestinians are suffering now)


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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UmmiE
The Cure And The Cause



Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Brampton

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Conditions never force anybody to resort to terrorism, any more than poverty forces people to resort to crime. Certain people will resort to those options on account of expediency and having a somewhat less rigid moral code.

Do not forget that Israel has, several times in the past, negotiated in good faith, offering something very close to the pre-1967 borders, in return for nothing but a cessation of violence, and the Palestinians rejected those offers out of hand. This does not appear to indicate a lack of alternatives; rather, it indicates a belief that the current strategy is in fact the most effective one for accomplishing the stated goal (the dissolution of the state of Israel).



For more or less the same reason that smaller-scale terrorist groups take civilian hostages - because it works.



How would you explain this then?

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UmmiE
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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Brampton

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Once again, I'm not advocating attacks on schools, but be wary of the mass media's persistent use of the word "children". Many (not all, obviously) of these so-called children are part of the militant groups.



watch this clip and tell me how many militant childern dead bodies do you see and see how old they are ..... Even if you write 12 paragraphs in return to me for this.... you still wont be able to justify shit to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
watch this clip and tell me how many militant childern dead bodies do you see and see how old they are ..... Even if you write 12 paragraphs in return to me for this.... you still wont be able to justify shit to me.


I see as many militant children as I do non-militant children....they all look the same...maybe thats part of the problem.


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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
watch this clip and tell me how many militant childern dead bodies do you see......digi plz stop.


i do think digi is stretching a bit with that remark and there is no proof that the children in that school are hamas supporters but then, you get pics like these and you gotta wonder





http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=49433


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
watch this clip and tell me

I fail to see how video clips prove anything, at all. We're talking about human psychology, military strategy, and broad social trends, not dramatic human experiences.

Emotional arguments may help you feel better about the point you're making, but rest assured that they hold no sway with me nor anyone else who's accustomed to drawn-out debates. Anyway, we already covered the YouTube angle in this thread.


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T_ALI
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Mississauga

I was impartial to the situation until now. Israel just went TOO far. Thats just not right.

If I weren't busy with university, I would love to go there and help out in the hospitals.

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evil_cookie
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
they do. whenever a rocket hits a neighbourhood. or when suicide bomber blows up in a cafe. etc. (obviously not to degree that the palestinians are suffering now)


"suffering now?"

point me to a time when the conflict was active on both sides and the civilian death toll, on the Israeli side, was higher--I'll save you the time: you can't.

also DigiNut:

quote:
About 350 people had sought refuge at the school in an effort to escape the fighting between Israeli soldiers and militants on the outskirts of the Jabaliya refugee camp, to the east of Gaza City.

Television footage showed bodies scattered on the ground amid pools of blood.

The UN officials said they regularly provided the Israeli military with exact co-ordinates of their facilities, and that the school was in a built-up area.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he was "deeply dismayed" that despite these efforts, three UN-run schools had been hit by nearby Israeli strikes.

The Israeli military said that, according to initial checks, its soldiers had come under mortar fire from militants inside the al-Fakhura school.

"The force responded with mortars at the source of fire," it said in a statement. "Hamas cynically uses civilians as human shields."

It later reported that two well-known members of a Hamas rocket-launching cell had been among those killed at the school, naming them as Imad and Hassan Abu Askar.

Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said the incident was a "very extreme example of how Hamas operates".

"If you take over - I presume with guns - a UN facility. If you hold the people there as hostages, you shoot out of that facility at Israeli soldiers in the neighbourhood, then you receive incoming fire - I think that's a war crime under international law," he told the BBC.

A Hamas spokesman, Fauzi Barhoun, said allegations that fighters had used the school to attack Israeli forces were "baseless".

"There was no fire of any kind from the school," he told the BBC.

Earlier in the day, at least three Palestinians were killed when another school was hit in the Shati camp, UN officials said.

The BBC's Rushdi Abu Alouf reports from a UN school inside a Gaza refugee camp

Ten people were also injured at a UN health centre in the Bureij refugee camp.

Maxwell Gaylard, the UN humanitarian co-ordinator for the Palestinian territories, described the incidents as tragic and demanded an independent investigation.

The director of operations for Unrwa, John Ging, told the BBC that conditions in Gaza were "horrific" and that nowhere was safe for civilians there.

Mr Ging said international leaders had a responsibility to act to protect civilians, some 14,000 of whom are sheltering in UN buildings.


I particularly like this

quote:
Many claims cannot be verified. Israel is refusing to let international journalists into Gaza, despite a Supreme Court ruling to allow a limited number of reporters to enter the territory.


source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm

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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by T_ALI
I was impartial to the situation until now.

LOL, um, no you weren't. Thanks for comin' out though.


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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
and the jews came from where? middle east?

i'm pretty sure jews didnt originally come from europe

and if you want to argue where jews came from, where did palestinians originate from?


Christians also came from the middle east... specifically Bethlehem and Nazareth.. curretnly the Palestinian territories.. does that mean Italians are from Palestine since the are Catholic?

Palestinians are probably decendents of tribes that were also desendents from humans migrating up the Eurasian contininent hundreds of thousands of years ago.

I cant believe what youre saying. Are you actually trying to justify a RUSSIAN or a Polack as indeginous to the middle east becuase of their RELIGION???? LOL

Are all muslims descendents of people from SAudi Arabia???


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Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by T_ALI
I was impartial to the situation until now. Israel just went TOO far. Thats just not right.

If I weren't busy with university, I would love to go there and help out in the hospitals.


if you really cared then you would quit university and devote all your time to helping the cause....don't use university as an excuse to not support something you truly believe in.


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