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Originally posted by djlithium here is my favorite that touches on the subject matter... "I find your lack of faith disturbing..." Ah, starwars. happy times Anyone up for some SW:Battlefront? =o)

Yup, a top quality SW moment no doubt.

"Once I was but a learner, now I am the master!"

Darth Nem

PS
I'm not a scruffy looking Nerfherder before you ask.

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You will destroy the rebel alliance on the white isle this summer.....you cannot fight it...it is your dessssstiny.

Hey guys,

I've been saving up for a long time, and I plan to buy some decks... I've worked a bit with some "dj package" stuff, and it definitely feels great, but i've never experienced a cdj.

now that I'm ready to spend some decent cash on some decks, i keep going back and forth between cds and vinyl...

Now, here's my concern: I'm worried that CD's will phase out in a few years... and the standard would become something like a dvd/computer dj system or something. If that happens my cdj's would be obsolete and therefore it would be useless for me to buy now.

I mean, its inevitable that cds will eventually be replaced by computers and more powerful mediums, but when that will happen... its upto the industry to decide... and its that risk that makes the stability of vinyl (that has been standard djing medium for ages) so attractive.

When I look at something like VHS vs DVD's, its kind of upsetting because it only took DVD's think about 2 years (or at least at a very rapid rate) to absolutely take over.

So what do you guys think? How stable are CDs? Is it worth the investment into CDJ's? I really want to make an informed decision so I have no regrets, especially since I doubt I'd be able to upgrade my system at all for a very long time...

Here's a link to a set up I'm thinking about :
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...257#post4306257

Thanks a lot.

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mj2,

This does not address the cd question you raised, but you might want to consider, if budget allows, an allen & heath xone::62 or the pioneer djm 600 for a mixer.

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Originally posted by d3020 mj2, This does not address the cd question you raised, but you might want to consider, if budget allows, an allen & heath xone::62 or the pioneer djm 600 for a mixer.

cool, it looks a bit out of my price range, but i'll look into it, thanks.

have you got any input on the cd situation?

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A true sign of the times.

A young DJ just starting out doesn’t know what medium to choose…

It’s fair to say that things have definitely changed, as there was once a time when the choice would have been obvious. And to some people it still is.

The reality of the situation is that due to the nature of the business and the advances of technology is that there is no sure thing, be it a career or the longevity of a piece of equipment, medium or music style.
“Always in motion is the future, difficult to see…” (Master Yoda)

Been thinking about some of the arguments about different types of new technology and the lack of beat matching etc. in some of the gadgets.
A lot of DJs feel really threatened by the new technology that makes the matching easier.

Are some of us so blind that we think that Djing is just about beat matching?

Ultimately this has to be about the most pointless thread in the forum, partly because what ever we think and how well we put our arguments, the cold facts are that this thread will do very little if nothing to actually affect the way in which things develop for the future.

Knowledge is power… don’t just sit back and assume, find out first hand about new technology. You may just understand it in a way that no one has done prior, and thus you never know where you may end up.

Cheers
Nem

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There's only one way to solve this. Agree to Disagree. Or just use cd's and vinyl and get the best of both worlds.

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Well, after reading some of the facts about cds, sound reproduction facts, and how vinyl care can be difficult, and how it wears down after a while, and so on...

(Unfortunately i bought a used vinyl, which turned out to sound like total crap because it was worn down so much, good thing it was only a few dollars.)

... I went made a chart, where I listened about 300 tracks that I would like to eventually buy. Then I went and searched for each track on a few of the most popular and largest Record and Digital Download stores. I only searched about 100 tracks, when the results became obvious.

Almost every track (except for a few exceptions) were available in both digital and vinyl format. The only difference is the price.

But when I sat down and really thought about it... I don't think the industry would absolutely ditch everyone who owns CDJs etc. already right? I mean, they certainly didn't ditch vinyl djs when the digital revolution occurred by making programs such as "Final Scratch."

And with that hope, I shall be buying my set up as listed here in about 4 or 5 days. I'll post pictures of it on the other thread when I get it all set up.

Cheers,

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funny you should mention that

I did a test this morning of all the tracks I have bought this week so far ( about 20)

I cant find ONE SINGLE ONE for download (including winmx and all the other p2p places) - utter rubbish.

I stand by what i have said for ages- know
a) where to go
b) when to go
c) be quick

and you can get it as quick, if not before the big names have it.

Yea I know what you mean, some of the best tracks digital download stores don't have. That's why is always best to have both.

Generally speaking, only the big labels and most popular tracks are released as digital downloads. Out of about the 100 I tested about a quarter was vinyl only, and another quarter digital only.

But as you said, you have to know where, and when to look. Which digital download stores did you look into by the way? I find Beatport.com and AudioJelly.com to have many tracks which are released on vinyl.

It also depends on which tracks you're looking for, and what specific genre/subgenre it is. I've been finding that more and more uplifting/melodic trance labels are resorting to digital formats, such as download stores and cd-r's.

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Originally posted by djlithium I can't believe the amount of wankers on this thread who want to kill vinyl dead in favor of cheaping out both financially and in terms of investing the time in learning DJing, not DJing on "records" and how that factors into other aspects of the culture itself. Give your heads a shake for a few minutes and understand this... "The quick and easy path forever will dominate your destiny." What does digital mixing technology represent? Gee, I wonder. It is not acceptable for people to use the following excuses in their defense of "digital djing" 1. It's lighter, and I can take more tunes. Bullshit. What DJ needs to bring with him the "history of dance music" out to play a 2 or three hour set that he can't stuff into a standard issue 40-70 12" record bag in order to satisfy a crowd??? Answer, A SHITTY ONE! 2. It sounds better. Bullshit again. Vinyl sounds better because OF IT'S LIMITATIONS as it relates to the physics of sound reproduction. CD/Digital platforms toss the rules of audio engineering out the fucking window and with that creates this "wall of sound" dead end loop that people get into with engineering material for digital use only. As a result it all sounds like flattened out garbage over loud systems. 3. I can get the most recent tunes and play lots of promos for free or "download" new tracks from new producers, blah blah. Who fucking cares!!!? So much for any of the material you play being exclusive for more than 2 days of being released "online". You now effectively are part of the "exclusively non-exclusive" tracks club. And that price tag suggests to me that its about as worth playing as well... something that's free.

+1

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