Other than Kolb have the front office of the Braves really made any bad moves in the last 7 years.Sigh.. i hate the Braves as a division foe but i respect them highly for their coaching and organizational standard they set

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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 Other than Kolb have the front office of the Braves really made any bad moves in the last 7 years.Sigh.. i hate the Braves as a division foe but i respect them highly for their coaching and organizational standard they set

haha same here
but I respect the Marlins more, a team with much less money who has had great scouting, great underated pitching staffs and batters that have mostly been brought up through the minors. Great trades that have brought in young talent, and yes we even do the occasional big signing to spice it up.
and o yeah 2 world series titles in 10 years.

by the way in 97 yeah most of the team was made up of high priced free agents, but if money was the case of winning championships, the yankees would win every year right? The 97 team had a perfect chemistry to it that suceeded.
People forget the 97 team had alot of guys who were with the Marlins for a while or who were brought up the team like in Charles Johnson, Craig Counsel, Edgar Renteria , Jeff Conine, Rob Nen , Livan Hernandez etc..

weather it was Dave Dombowski or Larry Beinfest, our organization has always had great baseball minds.
To bad we had a brain dead owner

KING FELIX!!!!

The 19 year old pitching phenom, Felix Hernandex of the Seattle Mariners (often compared to Dwight Gooden coming up), went 8 innings today, 6 K's, ZERO runs, and only 4 hits. Dude got the win 1-0. I love young stars like this...

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Originally posted by Member of X KING FELIX!!!! The 19 year old pitching phenom, Felix Hernandex of the Seattle Mariners (often compared to Dwight Gooden coming up), went 8 innings today, 6 K's, ZERO runs, and only 4 hits. Dude got the win 1-0. I love young stars like this... :-)

the guy was phenomenal tonight .. he is the new olivier perez of last year .. not many people knew who perez was last year, until he started to strikeout everyone .. not much of a season this year for perez, since he has been injured during the year ..

i hope hernandez keeps this up, and learns from the mistake perez made last year .. last year, after the season was over, perez did not take advantage of winter training camps to keep his arm warm and tuned up for the season ..

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did anyone see the guy fall from the upper deck of the sox/yanks game? that was nuts. i was watching the game and then all of the sudden they showed this guy on the net behind home plate. of course instead of helping the guy everyone pulled out their cell phones and started taking pics. the guy looked really drunk. i think verndogs said he was going to the game, maybe it was him.

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Originally posted by jonze234 did anyone see the guy fall from the upper deck of the sox/yanks game? that was nuts. i was watching the game and then all of the sudden they showed this guy on the net behind home plate. of course instead of helping the guy everyone pulled out their cell phones and started taking pics. the guy looked really drunk. i think verndogs said he was going to the game, maybe it was him.

maybe so .. maybe it was verndogs .. ..

i swear this morning when i was watching sportscenter and i think it was posednik that was running after a foul ball towards left field, and some asian guy in the crowd was trying to steal it away from posednik .. the asian guy looked like the guy in verndogs avatar ..

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch maybe so .. maybe it was verndogs .. .. i swear this morning when i was watching sportscenter and i think it was posednik that was running after a foul ball towards left field, and some asian guy in the crowd was trying to steal it away from posednik .. the asian guy looked like the guy in verndogs avatar ..

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SlackerBoy9 and Eddie ... I respect and agree with both of your statements about Braves and Marlins. Yes, division rivalries are very passionate, its so unfortunate many of us on this thread have to have favourite teams in the same NL East

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Both Vernon and I were at the game together. I saw it but he was out of the picture to see. I had a decent angle to it but was just far away to see that much. He said he had seen someone on the netting 5 years ago. Seeing it on TV would have made it easier.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch the guy was phenomenal tonight .. he is the new olivier perez of last year .. not many people knew who perez was last year, until he started to strikeout everyone .. not much of a season this year for perez, since he has been injured during the year .. i hope hernandez keeps this up, and learns from the mistake perez made last year .. last year, after the season was over, perez did not take advantage of winter training camps to keep his arm warm and tuned up for the season ..

Dude... EVERYONE knows who Felix Hernandez is. He's the best pitching prospect since... Todd van Poppel, I guess. But... he'll be better than van Poppel.

In anycase, they wouldn't even let him throw his slider in the minor leagues because it's so good that they didn't want any scouting reports on it. This kid is going to be fantastic.

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i wish it would just last forever.
and so, to feel like that?
i'd pay any price just to get that back.*

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Dude... EVERYONE knows who Felix Hernandez is. He's the best pitching prospect since... Todd van Poppel, I guess. But... he'll be better than van Poppel. In anycase, they wouldn't even let him throw his slider in the minor leagues because it's so good that they didn't want any scouting reports on it. This kid is going to be fantastic.

Yeah I knew about him for a long time and put in a waiver request once he was first eligible. I got the fruits of my action last night.



Here's some tidbits:

In Dwight Gooden's second major-league start, on April 13, 1984, he surrendered six runs on seven hits in 3.1 innings for the first loss of his career, to the Cubs. He was just 19 years, four months and 28 days old.

In Felix Hernandez's second major-league start, on Tuesday, he shut out the Twins for eight innings, notching the first win of his career. He was just 19 years, four months and one day old. It's the best game pitched by a pitcher who had not yet celebrated his 20th birthday since Gooden shut out the Pirates while striking out 16 batters on Sept. 12, 1984. Gooden, incidentally, was five months and 26 days older than Hernandez at the time.

How dominant did Hernandez look on Wednesday? He hit as high as 97 mph with his fastball, got good break with his curveball and even mixed in a quality slider and changeup. Statistically speaking, he was pretty sharp:

• As a team, the Twins batted just .185 (5-for-27) against him.
• Of the 94 pitches Hernandez threw, 69 were for strikes (73.4 percent).
• He faced 29 hitters and threw 20 first-pitch strikes (69.0 percent).
• Of those 29 hitters, Hernandez fell behind in the count to just nine.
• He issued no walks and went to a three-ball count to just three hitters.
• Of Hernandez's eight innings pitched, six were one-two-three innings.

Those are astonishing command numbers for a pitcher who allowed 48 walks in 88 innings of work for Triple-A Tacoma (4.91 per nine innings). Hernandez made 14 starts while with Tacoma; not once did he pitch more than seven innings, and not once did he make it through an entire game without a walk. Maybe we shouldn't be expecting him to be this sharp every turn, but Hernandez's effort does show why scouts continue to compare him to Gooden in terms of makeup, potential and rookie impact (putting aside Gooden's off-the-field issues).

If Hernandez truly is the "next Gooden," consider that Gooden's first 12 major-league starts -- roughly the number Hernandez could get this year -- generated a 5-3 record, 2.88 ERA, 1.147 WHIP and 93 strikeouts in 75 innings. Hernandez might not quite match the innings total, but otherwise he's talented enough to vie for those numbers.

And here's an even more encouraging sign for Hernandez, regarding the Gooden comparison: In Gooden's next 100 starts, he was 62-19 with a 2.26 ERA, 1.048 WHIP and 729 strikeouts in 768 innings.

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch maybe so .. maybe it was verndogs .. .. i swear this morning when i was watching sportscenter and i think it was posednik that was running after a foul ball towards left field, and some asian guy in the crowd was trying to steal it away from posednik .. the asian guy looked like the guy in verndogs avatar ..

man first it was people chanting my name at me at Heat Playoff games, now verndogs...
whats next?
Butters after years of being a frustrated Saints fan finally had enough and goes onto the field and tackles a player who just intercepted a pass from Brooks, then as he runs away he goes over to Joe Horn and jacks his cell phone?

I didnt see the fall till this morning, but that was some funny shit.