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Originally posted by The17sss What's the problem here? When a plane crashes do we ground every flight until the situation has been cleared up?

Atleast keep your analogies relative for god's sake. You think that the effects of this and a plane crash are the same? Could a single plane crash detroy the gulf? Name one other industry, other than the nuclear industry, where a relativley small fuck up like this would yeild this great an effect. Plane crash

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Atleast keep your analogies relative for god's sake. You think that the effects of this and a plane crash are the same? Could a single plane crash detroy the gulf? Name one other industry, other than the nuclear industry, where a relativley small fuck up like this would yeild this great an effect. Plane crash

Agreed.


This is so depressing I can't read about it anymore. I usually never say this, but ignorance is bliss. I'll just keep doing what I can. Riding my bike, encouraging others to do so, and hope for the best. Really makes you question a lot about our society.

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Originally posted by The17sss Yes... and BP had something like 300 or so violations in the past couple of years, while Exxon had 2 and Chevron had 1. I would hope they are learning from this experience. Perhaps next time, for example, we won't turn away Holland's offer to send a bunch of skimmers 3 days after the explosion.

It really is amazing that no matter the magnitude of the problem facing America, there is a 99% chance it will be turned into a political football and mucked to the gills in willful dishonesty and internecine quarrelsomeness. We'll choke on bullshit cookies before we're ever hit by a giant asteroid our politicians are arguing about. It really is quite pathetic.

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offshore drilling needs to be banned until proper contingecy plans are developed. Thats it theres no debating about it. We cannot afford to have another disaster like the one that is ongoing. I don't doubt that its over 100,000 bpd.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Atleast keep your analogies relative for god's sake. You think that the effects of this and a plane crash are the same? Could a single plane crash detroy the gulf? Name one other industry, other than the nuclear industry, where a relativley small fuck up like this would yeild this great an effect. Plane crash

Yes, if it crashed into an oil rig.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Atleast keep your analogies relative for god's sake. You think that the effects of this and a plane crash are the same? Could a single plane crash detroy the gulf? Name one other industry, other than the nuclear industry, where a relativley small fuck up like this would yeild this great an effect. Plane crash

Name 1? How about DDT. Millions of malaria deaths because it was needlessly banned over utter bullshit.

Anyway my analogy is relative. Shutting down an entire industry because of irresponsibility by one company is rediculous. I'm not advocating for no rules or regs man; the "all or nothing" approach is for amatures. Airplane companies also have layers of safety measures that must be rigorously checked and re-checked. If negligence is conducted by Delta on safety precautions that results in a horrible plane crash, U.S. Air shouldn't have to pay the price. Because you see oiled up pelicans on tv, you're thinking with your emotions. Shutting down the remaining oil drilling industry will DESTROY the economy and untold amounts of jobs. Those people wouldn't just be off for 6 months... the rigs will pull up and move to other locations, and most of the regular workers will not get those jobs back. Are you fine with that?

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Originally posted by The17sss Name 1? How about DDT. Millions of malaria deaths because it was needlessly banned over utter bullshit. Anyway my analogy is relative. Shutting down an entire industry because of irresponsibility by one company is rediculous. I'm not advocating for no rules or regs man; the "all or nothing" approach is for amatures. Airplane companies also have layers of safety measures that must be rigorously checked and re-checked. If negligence is conducted by Delta on safety precautions that results in a horrible plane crash, U.S. Air shouldn't have to pay the price. Because you see oiled up pelicans on tv, you're thinking with your emotions. Shutting down the remaining oil drilling industry will DESTROY the economy and untold amounts of jobs. Those people wouldn't just be off for 6 months... the rigs will pull up and move to other locations, and most of the regular workers will not get those jobs back. Are you fine with that?

yea i'm ok with that because working on an oil rig is the only job a person can have thus we're fucked but it's more important then say leaking radiation from the ground because billy in ohio fucked up.

get out of here with that, if the oil industry agrees that new guidelines and regulations need to be put in place then shutting down for 6 months should be acceptable. The fact that a rig would even 'pull up' and drill somewhere else is retarded. Hello, I'm sitting on a gold mine right now but my conveyor belt doesn't have a stop button, fuck it im out peace.

cmon now son

you want to talk about plane crash? so because United flew into the twin towers, why the fuck do all the other planes have to land? do I really need to continue plugging the holes of your debate?

What's being said is relative and I think you're trying to fight a point that has a very large awareness right now, an awareness that promotes the rehabilitation of a large ecosystem like the Gulf at the expense of BP and EVERY OTHER OIL COMPANY WORKING IN THE SAME REGION. You can fight this point if its logically justified, but the current state outweighs the detriments of losing a job, by far.

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Originally posted by The17sss Name 1? How about DDT. Millions of malaria deaths because it was needlessly banned over utter bullshit.

Please.

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Originally posted by The17sss Anyway my analogy is relative. Shutting down an entire industry because of irresponsibility by one company is rediculous.

But still, you don't seem to understand. THe effect of a plane crash and the effect of this oil rig disaster are in no way comparable. Again, a plane crash would not yeild such a destructive capacity on a mjor region. If you ever took statistics or chemistry, think about how you would apply "relative error" to your argument.

And to the other point, yes it would kill some jobs. This is the perfect time to get off of the oil tit. There are jobs in alternative energy.

Fuck it, nuke the south too. People there are too stupid for their own good.

Why did we not let them be their own country in the civil war? Fucking useless lot that contribute nothing and generally are what make the US look the worst.

Gas the fuckheads.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint But still, you don't seem to understand. THe effect of a plane crash and the effect of this oil rig disaster are in no way comparable. Again, a plane crash would not yeild such a destructive capacity on a mjor region. If you ever took statistics or chemistry, think about how you would apply "relative error" to your argument. And to the other point, yes it would kill some jobs. This is the perfect time to get off of the oil tit. There are jobs in alternative energy.

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