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Originally posted by Krypton Anyone have anything they want to add to my list?

Sure.

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AMX
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CCJ
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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

CSCO and MSFT plz

and I recommend Yahoo over MSN for stock stuff..

http://biz.yahoo.com/r/

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Originally posted by venomX Sure. QMAR SHG KB IVN LDK REGN ESLR QCLN ENER STD AMX ACN SAY CCJ IBN ROP PTI ITU

Got it.

Last edited by Krypton on Feb-05-2008 at 23:58

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Originally posted by Capitalizt CSCO and MSFT plz and I recommend Yahoo over MSN for stock stuff.. http://biz.yahoo.com/r/

Already on the list.

Fundamental Strengths

MSFT - 99
CSCO - 100

Consider that A+...

Microsoft's bid for Yahoo is one of the only buyout offers going around right now. That really tells you something when other sectors are shitting their pants. Technology technology technology, it's coming back around! I'll have a full analysis by the end of next week.

Last edited by Krypton on Feb-06-2008 at 03:07

One other thing...

I only run the full intrinsic strength analysis if the fundamental strength is above 60 because it's so time-consuming searching for and writing down 30 numbers individually for each company. The fundamental strength is quick and easy. If your stock passes the FS test, then I'll run the ISFM test...

Unless you specifically ask me to do an ISFM on a stock, I'm only running the FS of a stock. If it has a good FS, then I'll run an ISFM. With the FS, I'll also include the gamma ratio so you can have an estimation of stock value based on the fundamental strength and relative strength. Basically comparing the business value to the stock value.

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Originally posted by Krypton Anyone have anything they want to add to my list?

I'd like to see you take a look at BAM (Brookfeild Asset Management), it's been down since I bought it (currently down 18%) yet it has a strong portfolio of corperate realestate (which might be the cause) and green power generation.

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A look at what I'm holding (still, I haven't bought or sold since I started)

RTP is almost the full amount of my gains, it is up 31% since I started. (Rio Tinto is one of the biggest mining companies in the world. It's currently in the midst of take over talks so I'm assuming that's part of the reason for the strength. The other part would be the amount of metal it owns in world wide deposits. Can't go wrong with metal in the ground, it's doing better then money in the bank.)

BHP is holding strong with small gains. (Australian Steel / iron ore company, I think the leading world producer right now. It also has massive proven reserves, multiple long term contracts with Chines firms, and knowledge of the AUS culture / climate that is essential for working in the country.)

Finnally dirty Haliburton (HAL) has slipped into loss teritory (down 3% since my start). I wonder if thier stock price is inverslely related to media reports of Iraqi instability. In other words, the surge hurt HAL, pitty the NeoCons were right on one thing while being wrong on another.

All of my oil companies are down, which I really don't understand at all. Chevron (CVX) down 11%, BP (BP) down 13%, and Royal Duch Shell (RDS.B) down a massive 22%. My guess is that this is due to growth potential, which the market sees as nil. In other words the market doesn't think oil can rise any higher which means returns will be bigger in other areas. I tend to think this is wrong. Oil demand is near perfectly inelastic, as has been seen by stable GROWTH in oil demand in developed economies and stable high GROWTH in developing economies despite massive increases in gas prices.

From what I've seen the demand is rising at a moderate rate as India and China develope and the rest of the world continues at the same level. This means that the slope of the demand curve must be very steep for oil or else it would never be able to sustain such quickly rising prices in the face of slightly increaseing supply. If it wasn't steep the price increases brought on by the shifting of the demand curve (due to new demand in China and India) would cause old demand (US + EU) to seek out more cost effective means of utility maximising (like riding the bus to be able to get to work and still consume that morning coffee / twinky).

Instead developed economies are eating less twinkies / coffees because they don't like the bus ... or have no option to take the bus.

That's it, I've convinced myself. Here's my first buy / sell on this thing. Out of RIO and into my loosers, we'll see how this goes.

Oh, I was confused about this at first, but I've got a new stock, quite by accident.

BAM, who I'm all up on, gave me a present called BIP to the tune of 198 shares. BIP is Brookfeilds Infrastructure Par, I think it's a spin off of thier power gen. holdings. A good move to let the market bet on more specific elements of thier business. I think BAM might be getting set for a fall as a resession would nail corporate realestate hard. This split would alow part of thier business to do well without getting dragged down by the other part.

These 4 have the highest quality fundamentals I have so far found. Here are my findings with a link to the fundamentals themselves. FS = fundamental strength (100 = A+) ...

RIO
FS = 102
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investo...K=1&Type=Equity

PCU
FS = 101
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investo...K=1&Type=Equity

CSCO
FS = 100
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investo...K=1&Type=Equity

INTC
FS = 100
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investo...K=1&Type=Equity

We still haven't seen a bloody selloff in the stock market so I'm hesitant to buy anything here no matter how good it looks. I think we really some good old fashioned panic selling...capitulation...a sense of total hopelessness. That is what signals a bottom and we haven't seen it yet.

I don't think Wall St. has fully taken into account the economic policies we will get when the dems win the White House this year. I think a Hellary or Obama Presidency would chop 20% off the market fairly quickly. With dems in control of all three branches of government, it is a guarantee that capital gains taxes will go up, corporate taxes will go up, and the top tax rate for small businesses will go up...all very bearish for the market.

Keep some powder dry folks.

I'm one to believe there is money to be made in any situation the market is in.

I put 40% of my 'fundamental strength fund' into those 4 stocks. I'll keep you updated on the results.

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Originally posted by Krypton I'm one to believe there is money to be made in any situation the market is in. I put 40% of my 'fundamental strength fund' into those 4 stocks. I'll keep you updated on the results.

Absolutely...and money to be lost. It's called every single day. Sorry, just a bit of an asinine comment if you ask me. Bear markets are certainly a great deal more difficult though.

/end of rant due to market frustration.