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dcougar99
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
if you've ever worked around cut steel (i have) that was done with a torch. you can just tell from the cuts and the slag residue


you go ahead and let your imagination soar though, 'coug





BYU physics Professor Steven Jones discovered traces of thermite in steel samples taken from the World Trade Center.

"Using advanced techniques we're finding out what's in these samples - we're finding iron, sulphur, potassium and manganese - these are characteristic of a variation of thermite which is used to cut through steel very rapidly, it's called thermate," said Professor Jones.


THERMATE


Thermate, or Thermate-TH3, is an incendiary compound primarily used for military applications. Because of the similarity in names, thermate is sometimes confused with one of its components, thermite.

Thermate is a mixture of thermite and pyrotechnic additives which has been found to be superior to standard thermite for incendiary purposes. Its composition by weight is generally thermite 68.7%, barium nitrate 29.0%, sulphur 2.0% and binder 0.3%. Addition of barium nitrate to thermite increases its thermal effect, creates flame in burning and significantly reduces the ignition temperature.

Thermate is used in incendiary hand grenades.

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dennis
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Anyone who thinks 9/11 was some conspiracy is a fucking moron. There. I said it.

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ogvh5150
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quote:
Originally posted by dennis
Anyone who thinks 9/11 was some conspiracy is a fucking moron. There. I said it.


Coward behind a keyboard.

Keep trolling and you'll get probably get this thread closed and you possibly banned.

If you have nothing objective to say then suffer in silence since you think you know everything while knowing nothing but foul language.


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dennis
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Coward behind a keyboard.

Keep trolling and you'll get probably get this thread closed and you possibly banned.

If you have nothing objective to say then suffer in silence since you think you know everything while knowing nothing but foul language.

haha, go fuck your mother. I find this thread offensive anyways, becasue most, if not all the people who do beleive this was a conspiracy theory by the US gov't is using this unspeakable horror and crime against humanity as an argument for their own political beleifs, whether they openly admit it or not.

This is truly disgusting, and if I was to be banned in light of my outrage to this thread, so be it.

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metalgearsolid
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Originally posted by dennis
haha, go fuck your mother. I find this thread offensive anyways, becasue most, if not all the people who do beleive this was a conspiracy theory by the US gov't is using this unspeakable horror and crime against humanity as an argument for their own political beleifs, whether they openly admit it or not.

This is truly disgusting, and if I was to be banned in light of my outrage to this thread, so be it.


I guess I see what you mean. Every body has their political beliefs on the way things should be run, and no one really appreciates the oppurtunity they have here in the states. We have so much opportunity to succeed here compare to many nations.

i guess what happens is that people become deillusioned with what they see going on and they get paranoid because they are not where they thought they would be.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by dcougar99
In February 2005, The Windsor building in Madrid (pictured) burned for over 24 hours as shooting flames engulfed almost the entire structure and yet the building did not collapse. The core of the WTC was exponentially more robust than the Windsor building. So we have one building that burned incessantly for over 24 hours and did not fall, compared to two buildings which were structurally far superior, burned briefly from limited fires, and yet both collapsed within an average time of 79 minutes.


yup... still standing


last time i checked, being hit by a big fvcking plane just might compromise the integrity of a building

(i think) the first tower to fall -the one that kindve pivoted on the gaping hole as it buckled- looked just like i would expect it to.

there is no reason why the government would need these towers to fall in order to garner anything more from the US citizenry. an attack of this scope would have resulted in afghanistan & iraq (the regular reasons given) if the towers had stayed up

seriously, theres no logic to this conspriacy from a macro standpoint at all.


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ogvh5150
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quote:
Originally posted by dennis
haha, go fuck your mother. I find this thread offensive anyways, becasue most, if not all the people who do beleive this was a conspiracy theory by the US gov't is using this unspeakable horror and crime against humanity as an argument for their own political beleifs, whether they openly admit it or not.

This is truly disgusting, and if I was to be banned in light of my outrage to this thread, so be it.


Like I said before, a coward.

If you cannot offer anything objective to prove your point then stop replying. You're not helping the anti-conspiracy theorists with anything to bolster your claim.

If all you know is offensive language; it just shows that you cannot argue for or against whatever the hell it is you're trying to prove.

This main thread is called political discussion/debate and not attack your political enemies/curse out those that don't align with your views.


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shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
last time i checked, being hit by a big fvcking plane just might compromise the integrity of a building

(i think) the first tower to fall -the one that kindve pivoted on the gaping hole as it buckled- looked just like i would expect it to.

there is no reason why the government would need these towers to fall in order to garner anything more from the US citizenry. an attack of this scope would have resulted in afghanistan & iraq (the regular reasons given) if the towers had stayed up

seriously, theres no logic to this conspriacy from a macro standpoint at all.


Hmm... 1945, a B-25 bomber crashed into the Empire State building and expolded. Forteen people died and the builiding never came down.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/19...empirecrash.htm

EDIT: Here's another link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1


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quote:
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haha, go fuck your mother.


Please refrain from using language such as this, carry on and you will get a suspension.


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ogvh5150
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Hmm... 1945, a B-25 bomber crashed into the Empire State building and expolded. Forteen people died and the builiding never came down.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/19...empirecrash.htm

EDIT: Here's another link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92525&page=1


What about that Iranian military plane that flew into a ten story apartment building killing a lot of Iranian media personnel that were aboard.

That building never fell.
quote:

Due to U.S. sanctions, Iran is unable to buy new Western aircraft (whether commercial or military), nor spare parts for existing aircraft from U.S. manufacturers.[6] American-built military planes now operating in Iran were purchased under the old regime during the 1970s. Iranian officials blame the country's poor aviation record on the sanctions.
Iranian Air Force C-130 crash in Tehran


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Sunsnail
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
last time i checked, being hit by a big fvcking plane just might compromise the integrity of a building

(i think) the first tower to fall -the one that kindve pivoted on the gaping hole as it buckled- looked just like i would expect it to.

there is no reason why the government would need these towers to fall in order to garner anything more from the US citizenry. an attack of this scope would have resulted in afghanistan & iraq (the regular reasons given) if the towers had stayed up

seriously, theres no logic to this conspriacy from a macro standpoint at all.


yea thats true. putting explosives in the building doesnt exactly make sense

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