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Originally posted by partyprincess Look, I understand what you are saying, but it is simply not true. If this was the case, then B students would get into Ivy league schools. No B students EVER get into the top schools in the US. Maybe if someones father donates a library or something, only then. You are gettting something mixed up.

OMG what is wrong with you!?

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How many fucking times do I need to say it!? If they only accept 100 Canadian students, and 200 apply with 4.0 GPAs (which is just 80%) here, then OBVIOUSLY they won't accept any B students from here! THINK ABOUT IT!!! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!

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Originally posted by DiS ... I think all the good things were said about the war, so I'll just support the ideal that Bush is a dickless wonder that had too many problems when he was a child.

And he makes a good point about the programs as well, I kind of thought this would have been obvious but maybe partyprincess is missing it: if these B students are applying for Underwater Basket Weaving at Harvard, yeah, they'll have no problem getting in.

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Originally posted by partyprincess Look, I understand what you are saying, but it is simply not true. If this was the case, then B students would get into Ivy league schools. No B students EVER get into the top schools in the US. Maybe if someones father donates a library or something, only then. You are gettting something mixed up. And by the way, GPA, percentage, and letter grades are all the same thing, just in different form.

The point here is that getting a 95% in the United States could be as difficult at getting an 85% in canada. I already said this. It doesn't matter what the numbers are unless you examine the content that explains them. We simple dont have tham here in front of us so the numbers are meaningless.

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Originally posted by partyprincess The SAT range for acceptance to McGill and U of T are around 1200...for Ivy schools it is 1400+. These score ARE recognized and considered by Canadian Universities so that means that they do matter. What possible argument does anyone have against that? You have to score higher to get into the top US schools than into the top Canadian schools, you have to have better grades as well. People with Bs is the US get into our best schools, doesn't that say anything. To get into the same schools Canadians have to score a lot higher.

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Originally posted by oceanlab ...American schools are more selective, that's just a fact.

I don't get it... what does being more selective about students results and scores have anything to do with the quality of education? It is clear to me that half of you don't have a clue of what a hell you're talking about, or are just slapping on some facts in order to prove a point that doesn't need a proof.

It is a fact that (for example) it's way easier to get INTO the UofT than it is to top American schools, but it is also a fact that it is way harder to get OUT of the UofT than at those top American schools (there's a dozen of factors of course, but the main one being much harder curriculum/grading schemes/etc).

But even with that said, the education system in this country, as well as US, is WAY behind the one in some European countries (including my homeland too), so there's no point in arguing, really. All I can say is that with 9 grades completed over in my country, I was able to complete the OAC (grade 13) Calculus and Finite Math courses here in Canada with no problem whatsoever and with a 95+ average. Other courses in High School were just a breeze, waste of time so to speak... so if you're gonna compare something here, please, I mean please stick to Colleges and Universities.

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Originally posted by partyprincess hahahaha this is getting really frustrating so lets look at some numbers: you were talking about business schools right? Richard Ivey? It is way behind top US schools...18th i believe? http://www.b-school-net.de/

That's for an MBA program, doofus. We're talking about undergraduates.

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you're an idiot. with a couple exceptions, you don't apply on a program based system as you do in Canada, at least learn that before posting idiocy.

Dumbest fucking comment I've heard in a while. The only real difference is that they separate their "programs" into different colleges. Here's an example: http://www.admissions.cornell.edu/colmajors/ Notice how there are different e-mail addresses for the admissions to different sub-colleges? I thought so. Let's not resort to personal insults here, idiot.

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Originally posted by DigiNut That's for an MBA program, doofus. We're talking about undergraduates.

She's definitely got her shit mixed up big time... jumping all over the place from high schools to colleges and universities, and now to graduate studies and MBAs...

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Originally posted by partyprincess you dont think that this reflects undergraduate study?

BAHAHahahaha that's a good one... but um, no.

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i bet this will be inpossible.

*giggles*

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The only thing I can come up with is the following. Results of International Programming Competition for universities over the last 10 years.(This is a VERY VERY prestigious international competition). Notice how much WORSE american university have become over the past 10 years.


2003
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Took place this weekend. Top US university(Berkely) was a mere 13th.

2002
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1 Shanghai JiaoTong University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 University of Waterloo
4 Tsinghua University
5 Stanford University
6 Saratov State University
7 Fudan University
8 Duke University
9 Moscow State University
10 Universidad de Buenos Aires

2001
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1 St. Petersburg State University 6 728
2 Virginia Tech 6 850
3 St. Petersburg Institute of Fine Mechanics and Optics 6 935
4 University of Waterloo 6 963
5 Albert Einstein University Ulm 5 490
6 Warsaw University 5 586
7 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5 613
8 Seoul National University 5 632
9 Sharif University of Technology 5 780
10 Harvard University 5 795

2000
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Gold Medal
St. Petersburg State University
The University of Melbourne
The University of Waterloo
Silver Medal
Albert Einstein University Ulm
St. Petersburg Institute of Fine Mechanics and Optics
Tsinghua University
Bronze Medal
California Institute of Technology
Charles University Prague
Kyoto University
Shanghai JiaoTong University
University of Alberta


1999
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1 University of Waterloo 6 948
2 Albert-Ludwigs Universität Freiburg 6 992
3 St. Petersburg Institute of Fine Mechanics and Optics 6 1046
4 Bucharest Universtiy 6 1048
5 Duke University 6 1337
6 Caifornia Polytechnic State University 5 724
7 University of California at Berkeley 5 732
8 Harvard University 5 733
9 St. Petersburg State University 5 762
10 National Taiwan University 5 847
11 "POLITEHNICA" University of Bucharest 5


1998
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1 Charles U - Prague 6 919
2 St. Petersburg Univ. 6 1021
3 U Waterloo 6 1026
4 U Umeå - Sweden 6 1073
5 MIT 6 1145
6 Melbourne U 6 1153
7 Tsing Hua U - Beijing 5 743
8 U Alberta 5 758
9 Warsaw U 5 780
10 Politehnica U Bucharest 5 813


1997
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1 Harvey Mudd College 6 900
2 University of Washington 6 916
2 University of Queensland 6 916
4 National Taiwan University 6 1001
5 University of Waterloo 6 1219
6 Umea University 6 1483
7 Comenius University, Bratislava 5 740
8 St. Petersburg State University 5 760
9 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5 882
10 Korea Adv. Inst. of Science and Technology 5 921

1996
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1 University of California, Berkeley 6 712
2 Harvard University 6 797
3 University of Waterloo 6 866
4 University of Sofia 6 896
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5 449
6 University of Queensland 5 513
7 Albert-Ludwigs Universitat 5 579
7 Simon Fraser University 5 588
7 Virginia Tech 5 711
7 University of Auckland 5 745
7 Hong Kong Univ. of Science & Tech. 5 755
7 Comenius University 5 757
7 University of Toronto 5 766
7 Columbia University 5 905
7 Carnegie-Mellon University 5 921


1995
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1 Freiburg 6 991
2 UC Berkeley 6 995
3 TU Delft 6 1244
4 Harvard 5 1049
5 CalTech 5 1068
6 Virginia Tech 4 473
7 M.I.T. 4 676
7 Comenius Univ 4 677
7 U/Melbourne 4 748
7 U/Waterloo 4 1014

1994
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1 University of Waterloo
2 University of Otago New Zealand
3 Duke University
4 Washington University
5 Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
6 University of California/Berkeley

1993
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1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 Caltech
4 University of California-Berkeley
5 University of Otago, New Zealand
6 Oberlin College
7 University of Waterloo
7 University of Utah
7 University of Colorado at Boulder
7 Rice University
7 National Chiao Tung University

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Originally posted by oceanlab Back to the war topic...let me just ask you guys...If the UN weapons inspectors did find WMD in Iraq, and Saddam went on to deny deny deny and accuse the US of planting them or something of the sort. Then would it be ok to go to war in order to disarm him?

war ? what war.. ?? it's all about schools now !

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Originally posted by partyprincess So guys, don't hate me because I'm American ok? And because I dance better than you lol...Look better than you...Just kidding.

Someone please tell me when TA became a board based on competition in looks and "dancing".

people who think they are superior to the rest of us "idiots" here, please leave us commoners in our own little defenseless, incompetent online community alone. Please refrain from reducing yourselves to our level

this thread was intended to discuss the big question of whther the war was right or wrong.

there were 2-3 instigators which made things a bit dirty in here (not mentioning names) and there are now 2 people who love USA so much yet live in Canada and condemn the rest of us who live here too.

Now on the main part of this thread, it was concluded pages ago that noen of us have concrete, inside matter/proof that we are correct in our ideas....

Im sure that all of us (me at least) dont think that anyone who thinks a different way will ever change their mind by jsut a debate.

word of advice to everyone, this thread is not a conversion thread.


now...on a side note,

My sisters went to American Universities and when we came to canada a few years ago, when one of my sisters transfered to UofT, they flat out refused several of her credits because the american system is more practical based as compared to the 3/4 theory based system here.

I cant imagine any of you trying to survive a british, Chinese or Indian system of education.

oh and partyprincess, dont think any of us hate you because in reality, 2 inches of makeup and being scantily clad doesnt make anyone beautiful.

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Originally posted by DigiNut You just said it right there! Only 50-80 people would even have a chance of being accepted! Case closed. Okay look, I'll try not to be patronizing but you've got this backwards. We don't USE letter grades in Canada (at least not before I graduated 3 years ago). So the American universities developed a system for converting our number grades to your letter grades (or GPA): An 80% from a Canadian high school is considered an A, or a 4.0 GPA if they need a GPA. Yes, this is a fact, I had to look into this when I applied to the U.S., so please do not argue it. P.S. nice spelling of "equivalent", smartass. I normally don't nit pick about that, but since you are arguing about education...

American curriculum is bullshit, i have gone through the canadian for 2 years, the british for 10 years and the american for one year. And i must say that the american is much easier, the high percentage requirements for certain letter grades (i.e. 93% for an A- ) is like that to make up for the easiness factor. The British and Canadian teaching systems (yes i said canadian ) are much much better in terms of preparing you for higher learning.

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