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Originally posted by Ian^ does that come with a markus schulz coldharbour remix ?

LOL, I just about spit out my drink at that one.

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Originally posted by Ian^ does that come with a markus schulz coldharbour remix ?

so is there any real prog out there that isn't so dark and bassy yet doesn't qualify as McProg?

I think a more melodic form of unformulaic music would be damn near perfect.


I disagree with the statement "Trance by nature is predictable." I think that the only rule of trance that is set in stone is that there must be hypnotic repititions. The rest of the stuff just happens among the biggest trance musicians, not because of the nature of trance but because of the nature of crowds, hype, and marketing.


It isnt fair to belittle all of trance for the things that not all trance is doing.

I guess you could say trance is predictable due to its repititions, because all repititions are predictable, but then I just wouldnt bother arguing anymore because real prog also revolves around repitition, so liking prog for its repititions and hating trance for being predicable would just mean that people prefer different kinds of repeating sounds and that is a matter of opinion.

If music that isnt repetitive is your measure of "objective quality" then I'll just go away to enjoy my predictable sounds without you.

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Originally posted by Ian^ does that come with a markus schulz coldharbour remix ?

LOL, even I think it's funny.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 so is there any real prog out there that isn't so dark and bassy yet doesn't qualify as McProg?

Yes, there is.

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Airdrawndagger anyone? Ohmna? Xpander EP?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue Yes, there is.

the point of me asking that was to figure out which musicians to look up, yes or no isnt helping me much.


dare I say that Xpander is not prog, but moreso just a different incarnation of trance? It sure wouldnt fit inside the sets that people are calling prog. And the melody is not very exciting either, the emotion it gives off reminds me of that fake happiness everyone pretends to have at funerals where they try to mask their grief by remembering a person's life.

I can listen to proton all day and never hear any of this prog that supposedly exists(as I have done many many times), its either this dark rumbling farting shit or stuff that would fit in a markus set. Of course there is the rare exception when someone plays something from another genre, but it all has this melancholy mood that I don't find conducive to an exciting happy party at all.

I imagine this station that you prog heads praise would have this awesome exciting sound out there since it is supposedly this great source for real progressive music. I find the meloncholy prog vibe to be very predicable and boring, despite how original the structure and sounsets are.

I have a CD my mate gave me thinking it was something like trance.

World Series - Mochic (DJ Mag)

1: Moshic - "The Middle-East intro"
2: Moshic - "Nanok"
3: Snake Sedrick - "Pleasure"
4: Sharon & Robert - "The World Disappear"
5: Groovemates - "Power supply
6: Blue Haze - "We feel"
7: Subsky - "UHU"
8: Mavi - "The Dream" (Splean Mix)
9: Christian Hornbostel - "Into my mind" (Moschic Rmx)
10: Vek - "Hard 2 Break" (Blue Mix)
11: Double Du feat. Karen - "Sparks"

What genre would you consider this to be?

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 the point of me asking that was to figure out which musicians to look up, yes or no isnt helping me much. dare I say that Xpander is not prog, but moreso just a different incarnation of trance? It sure wouldnt fit inside the sets that people are calling prog. And the melody is not very exciting either, the emotion it gives off reminds me of that fake happiness everyone pretends to have at funerals where they try to mask their grief by remembering a person's life. I can listen to proton all day and never hear any of this prog that supposedly exists(as I have done many many times), its either this dark rumbling farting shit or stuff that would fit in a markus set. Of course there is the rare exception when someone plays something from another genre, but it all has this melancholy mood that I don't find conducive to an exciting happy party at all. I imagine this station that you prog heads praise would have this awesome exciting sound out there since it is supposedly this great source for real progressive music. I find the meloncholy prog vibe to be very predicable and boring, despite how original the structure and sounsets are.

Ok, try these:

Ortus - Pangia
Ortus - Force Four
Ortus - Awakenings
Weekend World - The Word
Weekend World - Sunday Shining
Sunkissed - Round Trip (Steve Porter Remix)
Roland Klinkenberg - Aeronautics (Steve Porter Remix)
Steve Porter - Sensor
Tetraflux - From the Past into the Present Future
Tocharian - Arcadia
Tocharian - Awakening
Funk D'Void - Diabla (Heavenly Remix)
Airgap - Resolve
Andy Moor - Passenger (Travellin Vocal)
Graham & Porter - Two Days on Lansdowne
Replicant - The Conspiracy (Stewart Rowell Remix)
Retroflare - After The Rain (Weekend World Remix)
Sleepfreaks - Fusion
Paul Rogers - Lazy Monday
Pappa & Gilbey - Twisted (Darko Remix)
Liquideyes - Closure
Medway - Resurrection
Fever - Distorted Horizon
Undivided Space - Recovery (Original/Brian Stillwater Remix)
Quivver & Sutton - Cold Rush
Morphtek & Darren Apps - Music (Aural Imbalance Remix)
Aural Imbalance - Genetica
Deep Space Organisms - Bass Oxygen
Deep Space Organisms - Natural Orbiter
Moonface - Synchronized Knowledge
Bladey - The Nelson Effect
Max Graham - Shoreline (Club Mix)
Max Graham - Tell You
Sugarglider - Slow Motion (Van Bellen Remix)
Blackwatch - Skin Deep (Gulf of Tonkin Remix)
Sonic Infusion - Reformatted
Private Taste - First
Chris Fortier - Losing Wait
John Johnson - London
John Johnson - New York
John Johnson - Hong Kong
Minimalistix - Struggle For Pleasure (Filterheadz Remix)
Ian Wilkie - Guten Morgen
Redanka - Out of the Dark (Situation 2wo Remix)
Way Out West - Hypnotise
Way Out West - Blue
Way Out West - Shark Hunt
Pat Foosheen - Invisible Landscape
Pat Foosheen - Zion (Sphere Remix)
G-Pal - Life
G-Pal - After Life
Pako & Frederik - Western Approaches
Fade - Light To Motion
Hamel & Rosario - Disco Volante
Two Right Wrongans - Sorry Mate You've Got The Wrong House (Steve Porter Remix)
Kolo - Fields of Forever
Our House - Soliton Wave
Science Dept. - Repercussion (Funk Function Remix)
Science Dept. - Persuasion (Dominica Remix)
Mike Vandenberg - Spooky (Lemon8 Inner Sanctuary Mix)

...Do I need to continue? I listed individual songs due to the fact that not every single track made by the above producers sound like the I tunes listed above. I tried to list the most atmospheric and melodic progressive tunes that aren't bog-bog and aren't McProg. You can take my suggestions or piss all over them, it's your choice.

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Originally posted by Camwin I have a CD my mate gave me thinking it was something like trance. World Series - Mochic (DJ Mag) 1: Moshic - "The Middle-East intro" 2: Moshic - "Nanok" 3: Snake Sedrick - "Pleasure" 4: Sharon & Robert - "The World Disappear" 5: Groovemates - "Power supply 6: Blue Haze - "We feel" 7: Subsky - "UHU" 8: Mavi - "The Dream" (Splean Mix) 9: Christian Hornbostel - "Into my mind" (Moschic Rmx) 10: Vek - "Hard 2 Break" (Blue Mix) 11: Double Du feat. Karen - "Sparks" What genre would you consider this to be?

Dark, Progressive House

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Wow, a thread that encompasses every single TA MD cliche that there is. Impressive.

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thanks you dude, it took way too many pages, but that was all I was trying to get, I wont argue any more until I've heard a bunch of these tunes.


If you all were a little bit easier to get recomendations out of maybe the good sounds wouldnt be so damn hard to find.