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| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
while the empire state building is tall, its not that tall. the higher up you go, the more the building is affected by things like fire... lets put it this way, at the top of the WTC towers the wind blowing into the buring building turns it into the environment similar to that of an oxygen blast furnace.. drastically increasing the heat.
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That's a nice little theory. Unfortunately, a simple statement backed up by no evidence won't make me beleive it. And don't bother trying to find a similar example. The closest one's I can think of, was a) the B25 bomber crashing into the Empire State Building, and b) the building in Madrid that burned for over a week (or something close to that). In both cases, the structural integrity of the building were not compromised and the didn't collapse, especially in a manner that looks exactly like a controlled demolition. The tower's came down at nearly freefall speed. And the obvious implication of that is the extremely low probability (more like impossiblity) of the pancake theory.
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
as for the "traces of thermate found" the only traces you are going to find is the acelrants added to the the thermite mixture, and lets face it, they arent exactly rare elements to find especially around rubble from steel and concrete. |
Yeah, it's not exactly a rare substance to find in the rubble of a controlled demolition. You care to elaborate on other probable causes as to why it would be present in samples of the support beams for the WTC? Plus the yellow hot molten steel goes hand in hand with a thermite reaction.
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
the thermite theory is total bullshit, no amateur video footage or crack pot physist can prove otherwise. |
Now that a very compelling argument. Thermite with accelerants (like sulphut if I recall correcrlty?) are more than capable of melting through steel. Apparently you haven't read through the rest of this thread. Ogvh5150 posted a video from google video (or utube) which explains in simple terms and demonstrates how thermate easily cuts through steel. I find it hard to believe that you're actually debating that thermate can't cut through structural steel.
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
the sheer volume required is just incomprehensible. |
Uh-huh, something that the military industrial complex and Intelligence agencies are incapable of right?
EDIT: 2 more things you might want to look into (or gloss over?):
1) The evidence was ILLEGALY removed (majroity of the steel melted and sold to China)
2) The architect and engineers of the WTC specifically designed and over engineered the structural integrity of the Twin Towers to be able to withstand multiple airline hits from a 707.
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