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Hey Ron, Not meaning to steal some of your thunder but this type of mixing gets talked about all the time in this thread

thnks for...now i know,

But to start from that ,will be great.

Ill try to search more info around and move to other steps.

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Kewlies Will be waiting for more improvements on your website qualia. I have a question for everyone around here, tho I recall it was discussed before on this very thread but in a different page. You guys think I should use mixmeister for keying tracks?I heard from loads of people that it's keying is mostly wrong, that true by any chance? If you guys think the program isn't as good, what do u recommend? (other than using my ears ofcourse.i do use them but not all the time) thnx again ^-^

About programs: use them untill u will be able to do it with instrument .Also ,do some trainings for ears ,to deliver perfect pitch ,if you want,then chek David Lucas Burge's courses ,they are very good ,belive me if you dont know what is it perfect pitch ,you will know it with those courses ,and will fastly deliver it ,it depends on your trainings(personaly i think is the best way to find the key of the track).

But you will need some knowledge of simple music theory (ex:KEYS)
So ,if you want ,you can pick it up with perfect pitch and put your hands on keyboards or strings its also important .

More,

Well ,my personal technic of find keys ,when i dont have a keyboard near me or i have ,doesnt matter,its :

A CHROMATIC TUNER (ilike the KORG ones ,but all of them do the job)

So what i do?

I dont have perfect pitch ,so ,i sing a root of the track to the mic of tuner(sounds fun) and tuner shows me the key
,but remember you should hear the root and then sing,its not easy ,
this tehnic is lazy stuff for those, who want to deliver perfect pitch ,but usefull when you dont have one.

So mostly i use just the tuner.

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Is that harmonics database site going to work anytime soon? Also, what's the most up-to-date list of keyed tunes we have in the thread so far? (more specifically progressive house tunes).

I just got my sister to help me with keying some tunes, however she isn't 100% sure on them. Anyone want to confirm some of these keys for me?

Hiratzka & Kazell - Reaction (Original Mix) E
Hiratzka & Kazell - Reaction (Future Funk Remix) E
Luke Fair - Lokitas Gm
Luke Fair - 34k F
Dan Sampson & Jhereal - One More Dance (Danny Howells Re-edit) C
Dan Sampson & Jhereal - One More Dance (Instrumental Mix) C
Peace Division - What Is This Sound (King Unique Edit) Em
Sirus - An Eye For An Eye (Pete Heller Edit) B or Bm?
Matthias Heilbronn - Like This D#/Eb
Matthias Heilbronn - Dub This D#/Eb
Simon - Got Me (Club Mix) C
Simon - Got Me (Vocal Mix) C
Ashtrax - Freeload D#m/Ebm
Ashtrax - Something To Get Through G#m/Abm
Ashtrax - Play It Rosa (Instrumental) Am

I would appreciate any help

A question..

I referred to the harmonics database a while back and got the keys of some tunes.

Recently I managed to borrow a keyboard and I decided to key those same tunes manually.

To my horror all the keys i obtained manually were horribly different from those I got from the database.

Could this be coz the keyboard was tuned in a different key?

I have yet to compare the differences in steps (value) for each tune which, if all have the same value difference, implies that it IS indeed my keyboard which has been tuned to a different key.

Failing which, theres something wrong with me.
Anyhow, I stopped keying anything until I have resolved this prob.

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i suppose it's possible your keyboard is out of tune. the standard tune defines A4 (the A note nexts to middle C) as 440hz. i don't know if you can verify this. you might want to play a note on a midi instrument on the computer (such as the piano that comes with rapid evolution) at the same time as a note on your keyboard and you should be able to tell if they're the same tune... i'm sure the database could be wrong too! ;-)

rafale,

i improved the midi keyboard in rapid evolution to add microtuning capabilities. in doing so i discovered a recent/possible bug when using certain midi devices, which could have caused the keyboard to be pitched out of tune (up almost one semitone). i don't know if this explains the strange behavior you experienced (or if you were even using re2's keyboard) but wanted to mention it just in case... stupid bugs!!!

Hey qualia,

No actually I was using a hardware keyboard. I don't have it anymore so I can't check if it works, but so long as all my tunes are keyed "wrongly together" then it shouldnt affect my mixing lol.

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Here's a question which might seem n00bish to all of you but what the heck:
What does each represent in symbols?
A minor, E major, B major, F-Sharp major, D-Flat major, A-Flat major, E-flat major, B-Flat major, F major, C major, G major, D major, A major, F-sharp minor, D-flat minor, A-flat minor, E-flat minor, B-flat minor, F minor, C minor, G minor, D minor, A minor, E minor, B minor.

If anyone here knows a link to a site that can answer my question that would be great cuz i dont want to be wasting any of ur time in answering something like this...

thnx people

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There are a few useful links on these pages.. however if you couldn't be stuffed reading em all (though i guarantee you that after reading em all you won't be asking the same question) heres a couple of links from earlier pages to get u started:

http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm
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do read! sometimes people explain and then you forget. But if you understand it on your own, its gonna stick much longer.

cheerSs

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