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EgosXII
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quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Read this one this morning.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...q-1225970009126


fuck

lets continue defending the US for no reason, yays!

edit: really nice doco, like the last part, talking about how assange has changed it into his own empire


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Light The Fuse
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there is like 30 odd pages of some of the most amazing fucking internet trolling/dribble i have ever seen.

kudos Wetherby - no offence but your reasoning really did scare me

stonewalling: a classic gail the snail technique - there is only one answer, no one likes to do it - but sometimes it has to be done. You need a good 'salting'


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Originally posted by Light The Fuse
stonewalling: a classic gail the snail technique - there is only one answer, no one likes to do it - but sometimes it has to be done. You need a good 'salting'




Bahahahaha, yes!!


SALT THE SNAIL!!!

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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
there is like 30 odd pages of some of the most amazing fucking internet trolling/dribble i have ever seen.

kudos Wetherby - no offence but your reasoning really did scare me

stonewalling: a classic gail the snail technique - there is only one answer, no one likes to do it - but sometimes it has to be done. You need a good 'salting'


Sorry blunt realism scares you.

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Sushipunk
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Sorry blunt realism scares you.


The 'blunt realism' of what's happening behind closed doors scares quite a lot of other people though, Nou.

Did you read the article I posted this morning?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...q-1225970009126

Pretty god damn irresponsible, wouldn't you say? Some very clear international laws broken?

The taxpayer would never have known though, despite paying the wages of many/all the people involved?


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
The 'blunt realism' of what's happening behind closed doors scares quite a lot of other people though, Nou.

Did you read the article I posted this morning?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...q-1225970009126

Pretty god damn irresponsible, wouldn't you say? Some very clear international laws broken?

The taxpayer would never have known though, despite paying the wages of many/all the people involved?



I really do not see anything wrong here besides violating internal policy and a few regulations... to aide in the investigation of a group that wanted to sell thousands of kilograms of uranium...

Which is worse, a group wanting to sell 2000Kg of Uranium to whoever (in this case at least the US) or diplomats violating their own government's policy on what can be shipped in diplomatic bags (which from the sound of this article sounds like it was done more for convenience's sake than anything else)?

They weren't shipping huge amounts of uranium either, and natural uranium in that state is very mundane. You'd have to ingest it for it to be any sort of hazard.

Also violating some policy to investigate a regime like the one in Burma is fine in my book. Those guys are pretty scummy.

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Leaked Cables Reveal U.S. Pressured Spain to Drop Case of Cameraman Killed in 2003 Attack on Journalists in Baghdad

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Leaked U.S. embassy cables from Madrid reveal the United States pressured the Spanish government to close a court case brought by the family of a Spanish cameraman, José Couso. Couso was killed in Baghdad when a U.S. Army tank fired on the Palestine Hotel, which was filled with journalists, on April 8, 2003.



Source: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12...in_to_drop_case

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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I really do not see anything wrong here besides violating internal policy and a few regulations... to aide in the investigation of a group that wanted to sell thousands of kilograms of uranium...

Which is worse, a group wanting to sell 2000Kg of Uranium to whoever (in this case at least the US) or diplomats violating their own government's policy on what can be shipped in diplomatic bags (which from the sound of this article sounds like it was done more for convenience's sake than anything else)?

They weren't shipping huge amounts of uranium either, and natural uranium in that state is very mundane. You'd have to ingest it for it to be any sort of hazard.

Also violating some policy to investigate a regime like the one in Burma is fine in my book. Those guys are pretty scummy.


Have you been paid by the government?

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quote:
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Also violating some policy to investigate a regime like the one in Burma is fine in my book. Those guys are pretty scummy.


So thats fine with you, yet you fail to understand how its fine for the rest of us that some policy was violated to investigate a regime in the US? Those guys are pretty scummy.


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
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So thats fine with you, yet you fail to understand how its fine for the rest of us that some policy was violated to investigate a regime in the US? Those guys are pretty scummy.



What?

Sorry, but you are not "investigating" shit... You realize that diplomatic cables usually are between TWO countries right? Even if most of these are internal diplomatic cables, what insight are you getting?

Nothing really incriminating has been revealed yet, the only thing maybe, is the spying at the UN, which we don't even know the extent of or if it was even carried out (is there a document that maybe refutes that in the 250k, would Wikileaks release that one if there was?).

Name one thing that been revealed that has incriminated the US in some sort of huge "OMG" scandal.

The problem with wikileaks is that the trust between the governments we do business with is being exploited by wikileaks to try and create international tension.

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d-miurge
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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
What?

Sorry, but you are not "investigating" shit... You realize that diplomatic cables usually are between TWO countries right? Even if most of these are internal diplomatic cables, what insight are you getting?

Nothing really incriminating has been revealed yet, the only thing maybe, is the spying at the UN, which we don't even know the extent of or if it was even carried out (is there a document that maybe refutes that in the 250k, would Wikileaks release that one if there was?).

Name one thing that been revealed that has incriminated the US in some sort of huge "OMG" scandal.

The problem with wikileaks is that the trust between the governments we do business with is being exploited by wikileaks to try and create international tension.


2 billion to private security entities that support pedophilia?

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