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University of Toronto 14 40.00%
Waterloo 21 60.00%
Total: 35 votes 100%
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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

party....so much fun.

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Dr. Z
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto/Waterloo, Canada

I go to Waterloo for the educational value, not for the party value. I am paying them big money to teach me.

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Michael Russo
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by psychosomatica
Universities have only been giving out early acceptances to those with 95+ averages. He must have had an amazing average.

edit: This applies to only the big bad universities. Ryerson, Windsor and Laurier have been chucking out early acceptances like there's no tomorrow. UofT, Queens and Waterloo have only sent out acceptances to those with 95+ averages.. the main round of acceptance letters comes around mid-may for those of us unfortunate to be in the double cohort.


That's not really true... I don't have a 95, and I've gotten into all of the "big bad universities" you've mentioned. And so have many people I know, with marks under 90.

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Z
Wow, congradulations!
What were your marks?

All the residences are different. If you like private life, and you don't wanna be bothered when you study, go to UW place. If you wanna party every goddamn day of the week, go to Village1, Meckenzie, and Village 2. Plus, they have their own little differences.


Thanks

Around 93 I think... but you also have to consider the forms about yourself, as well as the school you currently attend's calibration factor.

NightCreature: Thanks for the info

V1 sounds like a good option.



Durafei:

I honestly didn't need to read that...

Can anyone studying engineering at Waterloo give their honest opinion about the program? There were complaints about everything, not just the amount of work... ie. not learning anything relevant, not being on the cutting edge, not enough work with computer hardware...

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Durafei
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

Well, I don't think there are any Waterloo engineers on this board.. I do know a lot of engineers who study at UW and they all pretty much say the same thing: It's a lot of boring and useless work.. Having said that, most of them got good jobs, something that UofT engineers don't.

Having said that, I think most UW engineers are a bunch of whiners. It's true that they got shitload of work to do, but most of them never fail any courses. Why not? Cause their exam schedule is always perfect(they have a "class", so everyone's taking the same courses, so they can make schedule really good), and cause engineering profs usually pass everyone.. Fail out rate from UW engineering is relatively low compared to fail out rate from UW comp. sci. for example, even though engineering is MUCH MUCH more work.

I can say a lot of negative things about UW engineering, UW math, UW comp. sci.. But it all boils down to one point: it gets you the job early, it gets you the money and most importantly it gives you knowledge..


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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt
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quote:
Originally posted by 404 Science

yup, it all boils down to that, HUGE guy to girl ration, mostly nerds, and generally people that dont know how to have fun. thats the general consensus from my friends.


this means that any prospective Waterloo engineering students who are also TOTA's should feel right at home ..


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DiS
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Hamilton / Toronto

Don't want to steal this post, nor start a new one. that would be a waste. Since we're on the subject, I might as well post this:

Anyways, I have a similar situation, but different Universities and a different program.

Program: Busniess

Univ: MacMaster, UofT, or Western (ugh...NOT Ivey..grrr)

If it wasn't for my lovely bloody English teacher, I would've ended up in Laurier. But ..okay...not gonna get into that.

Any suggestions?
Right now, I'm STRONGLY looking at MacMaster. The reasons for not going into UofT is a desperate urge/need/necessaty to get out of the parent's house. What I don't know is, which is better. UofT or MacMaster <---business wise. My lifelong best friend is going to MacMaster(which is a bonus..health sciences ..that bitch). I know nothing about the party scene in Hamilton. I know nothing about the "sausage" ratios. From what I hear, UofT is too competative and you simply don't make a lot of friends. (btw, I'll go to Scarborough campus).

Regarding Western...well...nothing really to say. They party and they party HARD!

One more question:

If you go out of town Univ, do you get a car? How do you get around the city like Hamilton or Kitchner? Say you have a car, how do you manage to pay for it with the parking and insurance? Is it worth iT? Eh...I'll shut up now.

Regarding the GENERAL post:

I say go to Waterloo! I hear it has one of the most beautiful campuses. If you get bored, you can party with fellow TAs like Durafei!


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404 Science
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Registered: May 2002
Location: MONTREEZY

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Well, I wouldn't be that harsh... Waterloo engineers graduate with $0 debt, 2 years of professional experience and have very high chances of getting a job within a few months after graduation. Can your engineer friends from McGill say the same?


ya but its not that hard to come out of univesity debt free. infact, if you go to any other school, you have a WHOLE YEAR to pay off your debt, cause you graduated in 4 years, not 5. remember, waterloo engineers are in school for 5 years, not 4, without summers off. its really the same amount of hours in class and hours working wherever you go. and if you look hard enough there are always summer factory jobs that pay decent wages, and i dont think that the jobs that UofW engineers get are that much more enjoyable, most coop placements are in unrelated fields. becoming teaching assistants, working for the government or not finding jobs at all. and a mcgill engineering degree carries ALOT of weight, mcgill is probably THE most recognized school in canada, and beside them is UofW.
Of course I was a little harsh but thats because im bitter, they gave me early acceptance but didnt give me a scholarship. I got $12,000 from mcgill and $8,000 from queens. waterloo asked me to send THEM 500 bucks. bastards.

And what is university about anyways? learning. i wanna do more than learning in the class, i wanna have a good learning experience outside the class. and you cannot argue that waterloo is the place to go for that. there is too much of an outcry from waterloo kids. check out the survey the Globe and Mail did about canadian universities. everyone from waterloo badmouthed their school when it comes to the "fun" aspect and the "community" aspect. I mean, you go to school for one or two semesters, then you're out of there on your own in a coop placement. bye bye friends that you met. see you next year. at other schools its easier to build relationships with people cause they stay at the school. and waterloo is known for the math and engineering crowd it attracts. loads of fun those guys are....

and thats what it boils down to, thats why mcgill is for me, and waterloo isnt

but hey, everyone is different, thats just how i see things.


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404 Science
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Registered: May 2002
Location: MONTREEZY

quote:
Originally posted by DiS
I say go to Waterloo! I hear it has one of the most beautiful campuses. If you get bored, you can party with fellow TAs like Durafei!


No!! waterloo has an ugly campus. check out macmaster or queens
mcgill has one of the best. waterloo is so plain. big cement boxes.


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Dr. Z
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto/Waterloo, Canada

404 science, you seem to really hate Waterloo? Is there a reason for this? Did you not get accepted to the program that you wanted at Waterloo?

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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

Hehe.. thanks for all the kind words people! We try to have some fun here in Waterloo and I think we manage just fine. We always come up to parties in Toronto whenever there is something happening.. School has never stopped me from partying, if anything I owe it to Waterloo for giving me the opportunity to go to Europe last summer, to go to NYC to see Paul Van Dyk and in general to attend too many other parties which I otherwise wouldn't have missed because I wouldn't have any cash.

Now in Response to 404 Science post:

quote:
Originally posted by 404 Science
ya but its not that hard to come out of univesity debt free. infact, if you go to any other school, you have a WHOLE YEAR to pay off your debt, cause you graduated in 4 years, not 5. remember, waterloo engineers are in school for 5 years, not 4, without summers off. its really the same amount of hours in class and hours working wherever you go. and if you look hard enough there are always summer factory jobs that pay decent wages, and i dont think that the jobs that UofW engineers get are that much more enjoyable, most coop placements are in unrelated fields. becoming teaching assistants, working for the government or not finding jobs at all. and a mcgill engineering degree carries ALOT of weight, mcgill is probably THE most recognized school in canada, and beside them is UofW.

First of all, where did you get all that teaching assistant crap? I'm going on my 4th work term, and every single work term I've been working in a very very related field. I have to admit that I was pretty lucky, since on 1st work term most people do get crap jobs, but towards the 4th work term(out of 6) pretty much everyone has normal jobs, which pay not too bad for a student(anywhere between $16 to $25 an hour). You also have a real good chance to work for US companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, Sun etc, which all pay around 4,500USD/month + all living expenses. The kind of job you get depends entirely up to you. Try comparing this to factory job..

quote:

Of course I was a little harsh but thats because im bitter, they gave me early acceptance but didnt give me a scholarship. I got $12,000 from mcgill and $8,000 from queens. waterloo asked me to send THEM 500 bucks. bastards.

TOP students in Canada want to go to UW. Essentially you are competing with top 100 students in Canada for those scholarships.. There is really nothing to be pissed about, unless of course you are so confident that you think you are one of those top 100.

quote:

And what is university about anyways? learning. i wanna do more than learning in the class, i wanna have a good learning experience outside the class. and you cannot argue that waterloo is the place to go for that. there is too much of an outcry from waterloo kids. check out the survey the Globe and Mail did about canadian universities. everyone from waterloo badmouthed their school when it comes to the "fun" aspect and the "community" aspect. I mean, you go to school for one or two semesters, then you're out of there on your own in a coop placement. bye bye friends that you met. see you next year. at other schools its easier to build relationships with people cause they stay at the school. and waterloo is known for the math and engineering crowd it attracts. loads of fun those guys are....

Waterloo is as fun as you make it. As I have said before, there are LOTS of cool people here and there are LOTS of geeks here. It's up to you with whom you hang out. But yeah, if you expect too "breeze" through this school, don't even think of coming here. On the other hand, with a little bit of responsibility, you can party all you want and still get decent grades.

quote:

and thats what it boils down to, thats why mcgill is for me, and waterloo isnt

but hey, everyone is different, thats just how i see things.

have to agree with you on this one!


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MattVagrant
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto

Hmmm...

I got to UofW, and have lived in Kdub (Kitchener-Waterloo) all my life, and must say that the place is nice. If yer planning on focusing on yer studies, if yer planning on being a devoted student, then go here. I'm not saying that UofT is worse academically speaking, as I'm neither an engineer nor knowledgable on the relative strength of either program. But, the city of Waterloo itself is far more condusive to academic pursuits. You may be bored on weekends, if going out and getting hammered somewhere isn't yer thing (that's all there is to do really). And you may be surrounded by sausages and misfits for the most part. Yet, you'll graduate from one of, if not the, best technical universities in North America. Yes, that's including teh Ivy Leauge contingent. Someone also mentioned it being more of a community here. This is true.

As far as UofT is concerned, there will obviously be far more distractions, and far more fun to be had. And if you can handle all that, as well as the rough academic routine, then choose UofT.

I don't know. I'd say choose Waterloo. Unless yer moving from a big city like Montreal or something, Waterloo should be alright for you. Moving into a smaller city, compared to what you live in now, wherever that is, might be depressing though. I don't know. A lot of my friends are always saying, "You know what the best thing about Kdub is? The fact that it's an hour from downtown Toronto." If you can get into Waterloo, I say go there.

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Bizz
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

I think another question you might want to ask: should I go into engineering?

Right now, it's exam time, taking comp eng. at U of T, and I want to kill myself.


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