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Mr Game+Watch
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Long Island, NY

IMO most of 1 is crap... very much filler... while ISOS3 had a great ambient intro, this CD has 4 really repetitive songs (including the piss poor remix of "Obsession") that don't go anywhere... since when did Tiesto play Detroit Techno??? I *REALLY* hope he's not gonna play like this next Friday in NYC... The second disk is exceptional though.. maybe a bit deeper than Tiesto's usual set but... it's stunning. There's only one track that I don't care for on it, the rest is perfect... The last song on it is incredible... IMO, with the exception of a few tracks in the middle, and the last 3 tracks on disk 1, it's crap, and disk 2 is fantastic.


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Djeebie
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Amsterdam (NL)

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
IMO most of 1 is crap... very much filler... while ISOS3 had a great ambient intro, this CD has 4 really repetitive songs (including the piss poor remix of "Obsession") that don't go anywhere... since when did Tiesto play Detroit Techno??? I *REALLY* hope he's not gonna play like this next Friday in NYC...


I notice a lot of people don't like the first 4 tracks of CD 1. The fact you don't like (or 'understand') techno doesn't mean these tracks are shit. They are quality techno tracks and just because Frank Biazzi's remix of Obsession doesn't sound like trance doesn't make it crap.


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Old Post May-08-2003 20:20  Netherlands
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by djinnom
Like I said, I'm a tiesto fan. Again, he is my favorite DJ and I agree that he always has a great showing when I go see him live. But it doesn't take away from the fact that the majority of threads I've read in 4 message boards show that many ppl are displeased with the lack of continuity, track selection and mixing in his latest CD. I'm a fan but I'm also objective.


It just means that everyone is listening to the album and trying to be critical instead of just enjoying the music. We should be enjoying the set for what it is and not just listening for every minor detail that goes wrong just because he's supposed to be the #1 dj in the world.

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Neo nEro
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Registered: Nov 2002
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when i sat back and listened to it, it just didn't do anything for me. that simple.


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Paula
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Registered: Jan 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by djarecebo
It just means that everyone is listening to the album and trying to be critical instead of just enjoying the music. We should be enjoying the set for what it is and not just listening for every minor detail that goes wrong just because he's supposed to be the #1 dj in the world.


So now that most of the petty little arguments in this thread have died...djarcebo got it right. just ENJOY the music damnit.

To my point- WHAT makes cd 2 so much better than cd 1? I havent heard them yet, but I am just curious why some people are saying that. Let me make it clear that I am NOT challenging anyone's opinion. Just curious...

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Old Post May-08-2003 22:10  United States
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I just got it last night, and i havent listened to disc 2 yet, but i would say the first dosc is nice to listen to although there are definitely some boring parts. As a matter of fact I thught the first song was rather boring, but then it picks up later in the disc. I would say the first disc is sort of a studio type mix or for lack of a better term a EM type mix. It doesnt get to upbeat but it doest go very relaxed either, I like it so far and well see wats up with the second disc. Some people say that the disc are supposed to be like outdoor and indoor something to that effect. As far as being different from the Magik series this is very different, This is definitely Tijs showcasing his new found style.


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ok how about this.....since your soo confident, BE MY GUEST...POST IT HERE ASAP...I JUST WANNA HEAR ALL THIS TALK....enough talking i want to see actions NOW!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!


Hey dude dont be surprised when you hear the mix, there are a lot of people on here with skills equivelant and or better to some our "favorite djs". Now my technical skills ad technical assessment skills are that evolved yet to where i can determine if its out of order and really I think the order is up the to the mixer itself, but i do know this its not out of theory because Tijs has fucked up before just never on cd. please dont concieve me as a Tijs hater either because I love the guy and his work. I mean look at the avatar.


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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

quote:
Originally posted by Djeebie
I notice a lot of people don't like the first 4 tracks of CD 1. The fact you don't like (or 'understand') techno doesn't mean these tracks are shit. They are quality techno tracks and just because Frank Biazzi's remix of Obsession doesn't sound like trance doesn't make it crap.


Exactly. For me, it's just sad to read how people don't like those first few tracks in CD1 because it just shows how some tranceaddicts are narrow minded and shallow when it comes to accepting genres other than trance. I understand how some of you might not like them, I used to be a trance purist a long time ago, but to call these tracks piss poor just makes people sound pretty ignorant.

The first two tracks are probably the most complex and well produced tracks on both CDs(even if they're not even my favorite tracks). Have you ever heard Chutney live in a club?? The energy that track emits in the dancefloor is incredible, same goes for the brilliant Frank Biazzi remix of Obsession. I also think that the intro of CD1: M. Mayer-Love Is Stronger Than Pride, is one of Tiesto's boldest intros ever in a compilation and also very original and revolutionary for a trance dj to do. That track also energized the dancefloor like crazy a couple of times I've seen him drop it this year. If you think these are filler tracks, I really pity you. Go buy Ibiza Trance Euphoria Mix 2003 or some shit like that if you're stuck with the old outdated stale formula from last century. I bet those compilations will "flow" better for your taste, and no filler tracks at all. Pure trance anthems one after the other, wow that's mindblowing, it FLOOOOOWS

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Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ PíO
So yeah, the mix from 643 was kind of awkward, but the string of continuity (flow) was never broken till the end with Gatex.


i disagree on this part. he mixed in Fire & Ice - Neverending Melody INTO Flight 643[Original]. this is something U JUST DONT DO.. u dont mix in a melodic epic trance track into a 'funky techno' track as tiesto likes to call it.. no matter how much on point the mixing was,[which WASNT btw..] this type of arrangement of tracks will TOTALLY KILL THE MOOD/VIBE/ENERGY there was no flow whatsoever... up on til this point, i was enjoying tiesto's set, it was def one of his better performance in NYC since his debut @ Limelight up until that horrid transition that maybe a kid that just bought a pair of techs would make[selection wise AND mixing wise..] IMO it completely broke the continuity (flow) of the set.


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Registered: Jun 2002
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I know, that was the worst mix of the night. Shoot the man. However, he recovered the energy at the last hour. Now I wasn't really sober that night, but I was all pumped up till the end and I certainly wasn't the only one. There was a lot of energy in the dancefloor all through the 4+ hours. It's pretty stupid to discuss a gig that happened over half a year ago though, I've seen Tiesto 5 times since the Roxy and frankly that was one of his sets I liked the least, even if it was still great.

Sometimes the techno into epic trance mixing works amazingly for Tiesto. I 'll repeat the same example again: just listen to Impulz 2002: Lanicor into In My Memory V-One Remix, priceless.

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Wait, the neverending melody into 643 mix happened at the end? I don't remember man, but who cares. That was ages ago.

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Aya Brea
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Registered: Jun 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Choobak
it gives out an "i'm not very good at mixing; not even studio mixing" vibe...


haaaaaaa, agreed, but the track selection is nice.


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