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marcus82
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WTH!

what kinda of law is that? the truant law?

are lawmakers that bored that they have to penalize students and parents for skipping?

maybe lawmakers should get their head outta their asses and impeach bush...he does so much stupid crap it's not funny.


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occrider
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Originally posted by marcus82
WTH!

what kinda of law is that? the truant law?

are lawmakers that bored that they have to penalize students and parents for skipping?

maybe lawmakers should get their head outta their asses and impeach bush...he does so much stupid crap it's not funny.


Those are state laws not federal government laws.


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fuct4less
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quote:
Originally posted by marcus82
WTH!

what kinda of law is that? the truant law?

are lawmakers that bored that they have to penalize students and parents for skipping?

maybe lawmakers should get their head outta their asses and impeach bush...he does so much stupid crap it's not funny.


no, they just want kids to go to school so they can profit off every class i go to.
i think they make anywhere from $50-$250 per class attended.it really pisses me off to know i'm part of such a corrupt system

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marcus82
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oh...right, they did say florida did they not?

thanx occrider

well...maybe congress should constitute the intelligence amendment?

all future presidents have to have an IQ of over 110 and exhibit enought EQ (emotional intelligence) to realize that his actions piss off the world.


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quote:
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oh...right, they did say florida did they not?

thanx occrider

well...maybe congress should constitute the intelligence amendment?

all future presidents have to have an IQ of over 110 and exhibit enought EQ (emotional intelligence) to realize that his actions piss off the world.


lol........i dont think that any current polititians can pass those tests

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no, they just want kids to go to school so they can profit off every class i go to.
i think they make anywhere from $50-$250 per class attended.it really pisses me off to know i'm part of such a corrupt system


Hmmmm I'm thinking that the primary motives of your legislatures in encouraging you to go to school is not so that they can get rich. Haha I've never heard of anyone describe education as a corrupt system of profitability

And I assure you ... unless entropy has reversed itself while I was taking a piss, it's going to cost not make money to educate you.


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Hmmmm I'm thinking that the primary motives of your legislatures in encouraging you to go to school is not so that they can get rich. Haha I've never heard of anyone describe education as a corrupt system of profitability

And I assure you ... unless entropy has reversed itself while I was taking a piss, it's going to cost not make money to educate you.


true, but i dont see the point in going to school when the teachers dont teach,
especially when i've learned most of what i know at home

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War for oil? Sure, but that's not enough. There are more important things than oil in this world to rich and powerful people.

Things like security. Our military prescence in the Middle East was limited to using foreign airspace, which ultimately is under foreign control (Saudi Arabia & Turkey). America is not popular in these countries, especially; and any overthrow of the government in these countries (now much more possible due to the inspired extremists after 9/11) could lead to anarchy, and crowds could storm military bases, suicide attack them, etc. The government knew our military prescence in these countries was fueling anger, so they had to be moved. But where? Well, they decided that Iraq would be a nice, new base, a base with prime position to threaten states sponsoring terrorism (borders with Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran.) A new "base" in Iraq gets the troops out of unfriendly territories, but still in a menacing position. Any of these governments will now think twice before letting terrorism spawn from within its borders. The American troops in Iraq put pressure on all of the Middle East to make sure terrorism doesn't get out of hand.

It's just a hypothesis, but I feel as if no one will be attacked next, unless another major terrorist attack against the US happens. The rhetoric with Syria and Iran is more of a warning that we won't tolerate any lax behavior when it comes to stopping terror against the United States. It will scare their governments, and put pressure on them to at least discourage terrorists from attacking America. Because if the attackers come from your country, you're next.


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umm..........................................................how many iraqis per gallon?

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Another issue often overlooked is the dollar currency and it's uncertain future (I think Renegade touched on this on page 1).

Iraq switched from the US dollar to the Euro a couple of years back, declaring the dollar an "enemy currency". It is feared Iran will follow suit, putting pressure on other OPEC countries to trade in euros rather than dollars. The effects of this could be devastating for the US as a nation. For a long time the chief oil producers traded in US dollars, ostensibly a sign of confidence in the currency. But in reality, there was never a global alternative, until now.

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Another issue often overlooked is the dollar currency and it's uncertain future (I think Renegade touched on this on page 1).

Iraq switched from the US dollar to the Euro a couple of years back, declaring the dollar an "enemy currency". It is feared Iran will follow suit, putting pressure on other OPEC countries to trade in euros rather than dollars. The effects of this could be devastating for the US as a nation. For a long time the chief oil producers traded in US dollars, ostensibly a sign of confidence in the currency. But in reality, there was never a global alternative, until now.


The US does not want a strong dollar at this time period. At the moment a strong currency is doing more harm than good as Germany is finding out. As long as there is not a collapse of value leading to deflation, it is in the US's best interests to pursue a weak dollar policy.

Countries generally do not conduct "boycotts" in the currency market. It would be like conducting boycotts in the stock market. Financial transactions are not conducted in such a manner.


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Perhaps not, but the dollar is the dominant currency traded all over the world and for a long time her position at the top has been guaranteed whatever the strength of the dollar because no competitor was ever there to fill the vacuum. Now there is, and it is plausible that the US would take proactive measures to ensure OPEC (and other oil trading nations) do not make the switch from dollar to euro. I'm not suggesting this is the primary reason for her middle eastern adventures, but it is something that should not be overlooked.

You are right that nations don't boycott a currency just like that, but they also don't stick with a currency out of benevolence, and this wouldn't be a boycott but a switch. There was never an alternative until the euro, which is almost exactly the same value.

If the standard global currency changed from dollars to euros it can't spell good things for the US economy at all. The EU is the largest trading block in the world and it looks like it's going to get bigger quite soon. By lack of alternative the US will inevitably fall back on her military muscle to try and restore the dominance of her currency. It is important to point out however that whilst these considerations make sense of American foreign policy and her European opposition, they do little to explain the eagerness of her ally, Britain, who are still flirting with the idea of adopting the Euro whilst playing America's poodle. That said, Britain has made no commitment to the Euro and is, it would seem, trying to play both sides when it suits her.

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