Is it cool now to start rip-off threads? I realize this one is old, but figured now's as good a time as any to ask.

Am I the only one who doesn't care if one song ripped off another? Thread is started, people disagree or agree, thread disappears. Doesn't solve anything does it?

I took 4 years of piano lessons and the melodies of both songs are exactly the same I can almost play them by ear

nyana could've been released along with shandar back in 97.....its plastic synths has no drive and the whole tune has no real buildup or similarities to musical talents....

if the track nyana wasn't by tiesto no one would've thought it was any good....

don't get me wrong, i love most of tiesto's productions....even urban train!!!!! but this track i do not like because it sucks. neither do i like the tiesto remix of sirius....

shut up and put on my flamesuit, i will

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Originally posted by noonboy nyana could've been released along with shandar back in 97.....its plastic synths has no drive and the whole tune has no real buildup or similarities to musical talents.... if the track nyana wasn't by tiesto no one would've thought it was any good.... don't get me wrong, i love most of tiesto's productions....even urban train!!!!! but this track i do not like because it sucks. neither do i like the tiesto remix of sirius.... shut up and put on my flamesuit, i will

Are you a Star Wars geek? You talk like Yoda.

Nyana is a good energy tune...great for the dance floor. It has a buildup, but in my opinion, it comes to early and climaxes two or three minutes before the song ends and never reaches that climax again. Oh well.....I like the track.

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Originally posted by Cobalt I think Subtle by Design - Sirius (DJ Tiesto Remix) is much better than Nyana anyhow. And overall Sirius is just decent, not fantastic.

Sirius IS fantastic.
The artists "Subtle By Design" have REAL talent in music... unlike Tiesto.
I heard "Sirius" over 2 years ago and instantly fell in love with it. It's such an emotional track... truly "emotional" is the right word for it. Not like some of the recent trash discussed here.

Now the way I see things is very simple. There are people who are musically talented, those who no matter what are innovative and produce something new to fascinate us, and those who are "wannabes."

If you want an example of a truly talented producer, I can give you one. Accuface. This guy (Marlon Jurs) manages to write something incredibly great every time. Listen to every track he's written, how all of his music is creative and beams with talent. Listen to "Outerspace Energy" by him, or any other track. The same level of pro sound can be heard from Subtle by Design. It's no accident that I brought up Accuface; he's German. And so is the Subtle by Design project.

Tiesto, on the other hand, is a wannabe. He does not have TRUE musical talent. Maybe he can string together a few chords by experimenting... maybe he knows a few fx and knows how to feel the beat. I'm not denying that. But as a musician? No. He ain't got it. Sorry. The remix of Delirium was probably the only good thing to have come out from him.

I'm not surprised, therefore, that he basically ripped it off "Sirius"...

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^^^^^^^ Tiesto hater.

Tiesto doesn't have musical talent my ASS! Have you ever listened to any of the Allure tracks or Gouryella, Kamaya Painters, etc?? Tiesto is a very skilled trance producer.....if you think he has not talent, then neither does PvD, Ferry, Armin, etc.

Dumbass.

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Originally posted by Eugene ...Tiesto, on the other hand, is a wannabe...

hahaha! yeah sure the number 1 DJ in the world, probably the first one ever in two consecutive years, is a wannabe

The original tune Sirius was a mediocre track with lack of energy but with the potential to be a good tune because of its main melody. Tiesto remixed it and created the secondary melody, resulting an absolute stormer, probably his best remix out there. However he used the melody he created in his Sirius remix for Nyana, with an even more elegant, deep and epic twist that will surely make it the tune of the year, if it is released soon.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 If you think those two sound alike, why don't you check out Suburban Train and then the Tiesto remix of Kid Vicious - Reform!!! Suburban Train, to me, is still a great track, but it's still just a remix of a Ronald Van Gelderan track and not a Tiesto original.

wow...it pays to read! Someone already mentioned that...Tiesto gives credit to Ronald Van Gelderan on IMM.

Anyways....this thread is hella old, but since it's reborn, yes Nyana does sound a lot like Sirius...

but who cares? Both are mint tracks...

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs wow...it pays to read! Someone already mentioned that...Tiesto gives credit to Ronald Van Gelderan on IMM. Anyways....this thread is hella old, but since it's reborn, yes Nyana does sound a lot like Sirius... but who cares? Both are mint tracks...

yes, I KNOW he gives credit to R.V.G. on the CD (I have it), but so many people think S. Train is an original Tiesto production.....but it just isn't. It's nothing more than a remix of his own remix, which was a remix of an original work.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 yes, I KNOW he gives credit to R.V.G. on the CD (I have it), but so many people think S. Train is an original Tiesto production.....but it just isn't. It's nothing more than a remix of his own remix, which was a remix of an original work.

it's not tiesto's fault if people think its his production. They just have to read he credits.

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Originally posted by nate735 it's not tiesto's fault if people think its his production. They just have to read he credits.

you're kinda making it out as if I'm one of the thousands of Tiesto haters on here. Well, I'm not. I still listen to Suburban Train and I still love Tiesto. But some of his productions just weren't all that original, but I'm fine with it, because he usually vastly improves the songs he takes inspiration from.

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