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nickmahoney
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: filthadefia

wow.

i dont know any of you guys personally really, nor do i think your personal life has any bearing on whether or not this song is good or not. some of you are a bit agressive, and thats your style, no big deal, but its all a little strange to me to poke at a stranger in an internet forum

clarification on my opinion of cheese-
when someone calls a track cheesy they are saying firstly that the track is cheap, it relies on a consistent sound that is often not SUBTLE, original, or complex. cheesy indeed also implies a low level of quality, but the poorness of quality is not really in production skill or sound.

for me, i liked the first song i heard with what are now considered cheesy vocals. most people these days consider vocals cheesy when they rely on that cheap technic of making every word sound like its telling some Epic story. cheesy synths are usually the same-ol saw tooth synth highly filtered and running in 1/16 notes. any other part of a song can be cheesy. most people liked that stuff at some point, but its like when a movie just does over the top stupid stuff to be funny...at some point it just stops being interesting. its not that its not as good as the original tracks that came out with the same sounding synths, its that it is similar and the people in this community, enthusiasts, are disappointed when they think a quality producer is relying on a cheap technique to make a track.

there is indeed some bandwagoning going on where people are just calling anything they dont like cheese and anything that they hear someone else call cheese the same, but some of the times people have a point. as i said above, i like cheesy tracks sometimes too, but they are less and less appealing. and as i said 2 pages ago, i think ferry knows this stuff is cheesy (he probably wouldnt call it that ), and thats why its under the alias SF. fans of SF want an SF sounding track. the original SF sound has been reproduced so much, its now cheesey. its a shame, but its true.

do you really think he needed to release a vocal cut of Ligaya?

just my two bits. dont mean to step on any toes, i just wanted to defend those of us who are rationally deciding something is cheesy. flame away.


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refuge
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Somewhere in L.A.

can someone plz explain to me what 0day MP3's are?
-reZ


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nickmahoney
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: filthadefia

quote:
Originally posted by WestCoastTrancin'
can someone plz explain to me what 0day MP3's are?
-reZ


correct me if i'm wrong, but i think its an implication that the MP3 was ripped the day the actual production was released. in general, i think it means mp3s of tracks released within like a week or so and prereleases. new stuff.


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refuge
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Somewhere in L.A.

quote:
Originally posted by nickmahoney
correct me if i'm wrong, but i think its an implication that the MP3 was ripped the day the actual production was released. in general, i think it means mp3s of tracks released within like a week or so and prereleases. new stuff.


o, i c.
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Bortsta
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Kingston Upon Thames, UK

quote:
Originally posted by heaven scent
This song is terrible, me and my boyfriend actually laughed out loud at how bad it is when we first heard it

The vocals are ridiculous and ruin what could be a good song. A dub mix would be okay but even then its nowhere near as good as Ferry's earlier stuff

and remember kids 'the sky is a safety net for those who feel lost... in the belly of the universe, theres a spaceman to the scene!' woohoo!


I agree as well.Without the vocals it would have been a nice ferry trancer.I don't normally mind "cheesy" vocals but the lyrics on this are just ridiculous and cringeworthy and almost as bad as some of scooter's efforts.Hopefully there will be a dub mix but matti's mix isn't bad though.

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Sirocco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: The Seventh City (New Jersey)
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quote:
Originally posted by Az

you said 10,000!
and is it really 9 months since your birthday thread got closed?
and your job is a vinyl/CD ripper?? I hope you get raped in jail you thieving ****


thats it im PMing adminsitrators about you. You never leave me alone. You use humor as a cover up so you cant answer my questions. ok, funny man, we will see....


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Nell
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Newcastle , England

lololol.

sirocco, if he annoys you or whatever, just ignore him. you look like the loser when you respond all offended. i see where Az is comming from, as from my perspective you do seem to brag a little about your 0 day releases!? it does seem ironic you would obtain a vinyl when you have all these mp3s.

Also the 6,800 people!?! i see this as unbelievable considering you were asking people how to mix on the hub less thatn 6 months ago, promoting what was a very poorly constructed set. how the hell did you suddenly shoot to stardom? if you show me a video of you playing ill believe you or.. if 10 ta's confirm this. not that you need to proove anything, your obviously l33t enough with '0' days.


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arturob
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Miami

hey Az,

would you mind stopping this flaming and attacking on Sirocco. It think you should let people live and be, and if you have a problem with it, just ignore.

hrhrhr

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Sirocco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: The Seventh City (New Jersey)

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
lololol.

sirocco, if he annoys you or whatever, just ignore him. you look like the loser when you respond all offended. i see where Az is comming from, as from my perspective you do seem to brag a little about your 0 day releases!? it does seem ironic you would obtain a vinyl when you have all these mp3s.

Also the 6,800 people!?! i see this as unbelievable considering you were asking people how to mix on the hub less thatn 6 months ago, promoting what was a very poorly constructed set. how the hell did you suddenly shoot to stardom? if you show me a video of you playing ill believe you or.. if 10 ta's confirm this. not that you need to proove anything, your obviously l33t enough with '0' days.


6 months ago? way longer than that! it wasnt stardom, it was a lucky oppertunity i got to spin in a local college gynasium for a dance.
when is the last time i did brag tho?

"it does seem ironic you would obtain a vinyl when you have all these mp3s."

HOW DO YOU THINK I GET THE MP3S? You think I get them just like that? I have to rip vinyl before everyone else in order to get them!


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5. Armin Van Buuren - Shivers (Christian Webber Mix)

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arturob
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Miami

ffs.

stop talking about ripping vinyl and 0days on this board ffs! geez. when will you all learn. do you see other members bragging what they have? no ! hrhrhr!!

enough flames alredy. i`m tired of this shit.


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