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Originally posted by SOLO-D1 I have to agree with PCP2017 that is not bad for a country twice the size of new jersey! and I've never heard of a trance event of 40,000 pleople in the US, but I could be wrong.

The Ultra Music Festival was 40,000+ @ Miami, Florida ( Bayfront Park ).

Well, the US is a big ass country with a big ass population. Yet, theres plenty of clubs that play the trance music. There's always a big DJ somewhere in the US playing. The problem is, the US is TOO big to have a general US sound. Each state, city have their own sound. What may be heard in California may be totally different then what is heard in Florida. Is all about the type of society and local scenes. About Holland, well, im quite surpirsed also. It looks just like Miami. Theres this dance radio station, big clubs and big Dj's, the winter music conference and such, big parties all around... thousands come to party, it looks as if the whole Miami peep would know the sound, but not really. Each person is into their style, so each individual knows whats going on, its like one's own world. And I see that same case in Holland, though society is different and more liberal. If laws in the US wouldnt be as restricted, IM sure that every kidd in my school would be going to the big DJ name events.. thought that would definetly suck.

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Originally posted by SOLO-D1 It's just like a tourist coming to the U.S. asking about Bo Diddley, most people wouldnt even know who that is! although he's a Blues legend and Blues is real popular in the U.S. that doesnt mean everyone knows about him. The tourist would say "well im disapointed because I thought he was very popular and nobody knows who that is" the truth is that he is popular but only with a certain crowd.

I totally agree. I think the important thing to remember is that unless the person is very elitist ("You don't know any of the bands/producers I listen to because I am so hardcore I listed to the REAL underground shit that nobody has heard off") they are going to think the music they and there friends like is the "normal" popular stuff and thats what most people listen too.

That said I think this brings up a good point. I know I have always thought of trance being really big in Holland (mostly because of the reasons people have been saying) and it is interesting to hear about this experience. It has definitly made me rethink the stereotype I had in my mind.

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I live in New York City, and the trance/club scene is quite big here, too many clubs to mention, biggest one though is probably Webster Hall, maybe some of you have they compilation CD's or what not. But MTV Inc. and the little 14 yrs olds of the US dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. All this pop music and shit *vomits* ill admit when i was growing up, I listened to a load of rap. I still like it, but most of it is garbage. If the music industry wasnt so commercial and industrialized, I think we all know what would be on top. ACTUAL MUSIC, WITH BEAT AND LYRICS WORTH LISTENING TO. Not like rap, where a 5 yr old can come up with a rhyme, throw in a beat or two, talk through the beat, and sell a million records. Funniest thing I hear when listening to club music in my car is, WTF is that noise your listening to? If trance is noise, than rap gotta be barking with a tune.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by jploveparade We Dutch are lazy asses who don't buy albums but download them.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm too lazy to search for -- and WAIT for -- downloads, I'd much rather get a 100%-audio-quality product immediately in my hand, so... and I'm not even into Tiesto or AvB that much, but I figured at least they would be popular since they live in Holland...

@ LiquidX - When I was in Miami, Florida, every music/record shop had a great selection of Trance. I came away with a bunch of CDs and vinyls that I loved! And also, I regularly buy compilations and mixes in NYC, which also has a lot of imports.

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- Yes, that's true, there's always the chance you will find that Import dance CD, but that is, the IMPORT < meaning, expensive as hell, but I see that thats the case anywhere you go, except for lets say, Germany, Hollanda and the UK, where bunch of good CD's are released locally. But is true, you will most likely find stuff in Miami's record shops, and Im taking it as since trance is a strong genre, and its Miami, ya know, South Beach, bunch of DJ's and clubs, who knows.

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Originally posted by Biohazard You guys shouldnt come to holland, the scene stinks here.The Trance scenehas been destroyed by hardstyle. Soon gabber is gna take over again and trance will go back to the underground. Our Djs like ferry, tiesto and armin will go abroad and we will never hearvthme anymoire I've been warned the Uk people for the same thing, they wont listen. You will see when you scene gets flooded with tons of useless hardstylke albums and parties. Its fun for about a year, but it tired really quickly

at least you don't have 24/7 rap playing there like here

hardstyle is much more quality then mainstream pop with rap in it

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Damn it.
And here I was planning to pay the great nation a vision in the next couple of years. Main reason: PARTYYYY. Oh well. Ain't happening any time soon. The scene will change.

btw, imported CDs are EXPENSIVE!!! Even tho I have 56k, I'd still rather download a cd. (EMC and Essential Hub rule)

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Originally posted by Vlad I live in New York City, and the trance/club scene is quite big here, too many clubs to mention, biggest one though is probably Webster Hall, maybe some of you have they compilation CD's or what not. But MTV Inc. and the little 14 yrs olds of the US dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. All this pop music and shit *vomits* ill admit when i was growing up, I listened to a load of rap. I still like it, but most of it is garbage. If the music industry wasnt so commercial and industrialized, I think we all know what would be on top. ACTUAL MUSIC, WITH BEAT AND LYRICS WORTH LISTENING TO. Not like rap, where a 5 yr old can come up with a rhyme, throw in a beat or two, talk through the beat, and sell a million records. Funniest thing I hear when listening to club music in my car is, WTF is that noise your listening to? If trance is noise, than rap gotta be barking with a tune.

Amen to that!

by the way I do have Tranzworld 1-5 need to get 6 though

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Originally posted by DiS Damn it. And here I was planning to pay the great nation a vision in the next couple of years. Main reason: PARTYYYY. Oh well. Ain't happening any time soon. The scene will change. btw, imported CDs are EXPENSIVE!!! Even tho I have 56k, I'd still rather download a cd. (EMC and Essential Hub rule)

Keep the Faith, my brotha/sista. You'll never know maybe a new dj or style takes over and takes trance to a new level!

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Originally posted by Orko I think Canada is quickly catching up, not so much in terms of djs and producers but in terms of a following. the HMV in downtown Toronto has a Huge electronic section. I live just toronto, and the hmv near my place has a big section too. Im pleased with it. the cd's are still too expensive to be mainstream, so i stick with downloading live mixes. I know more people who are getting into trance, but most stil regard it as stupid and repedative. The prices for the music dont help to populate it, but for that i am thanksful. As soon as it gets popular the quality will die, and along with it, most of our souls. I did hear Iio - At the end, on the radio the other day. and castles in the sky, thats as far as peoples trance knowledge goes though.

hahaha down here in windsor is much the same... thank god for hmv i say...