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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 Ummm....the President is elected by the people, not by Governors.

the people in each state vote for electors in the electoral college, the electoral college votes for the president.

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Originally posted by rizen the people in each state vote for electors in the electoral college, the electoral college votes for the president.

Yes, true. It's not like in many countries where you just vote for the President. So many things influence the election, it's rather ridiculous.

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Make it Popular Vote.. that easy, and if too close a call, make a re-vote. Everycountry doesnt, why wouldnt the US be able tooo?!?! anyways.. this topic is done, hehehe

and like I said, sucks to be on Californias shoes right now
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Originally posted by rizen the people in each state vote for electors in the electoral college, the electoral college votes for the president.

which isnt a true democracy in my opinion

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Originally posted by rizen um excuse me, but carter's economic stimulus appropriations act passed, Unemployment declined, but massive cost-of-living increases stimulated by huge oil price hikes in the Middle East soon dominated the Administration's domestic agenda. some carter/commie stuff Carter built a global coalition in protesting the 1979 invasion. In 1980, the U.S. suspended all high-technology and grain sales to the Soviet Union. Carter not only denounced the trials of Soviet dissidents, but also spoke out for the rights of Eastern Europeans. carter's domestic resume may not be the best, but it wasnt bad. plus he got a nobel peace award

good points. i completely agree that carter also helped bring the end of the cold war, thats not to say Reagan's is any less important. i just disagree with you about the economic policies of both presidents, i feel reagon had a better hold on it then carter, but its late and im too tired to back it up, sorry

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Originally posted by festayre I'm sad to see a great country like United States who have a President that is not elected by people but by Governors elected by people. In France, we vote directly to elect our President. Only Senate is elected indirectly by Mayors and local councillors. I don't understand why you don't want to change this process...

To amend the US constitution requires a 2/3rds majority in Congress.

All the small shitty states (no offense to anyone) think the electoral college gives them more clout (power), so they always vote against changing to direct election. There have been many attempts to change the system. Personally I also favor direct elections for president, and feel it is more representative of what the people want...

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Originally posted by Izzy i just disagree with you about the economic policies of both presidents, i feel reagon had a better hold on it then carter, but its late and im too tired to back it up, sorry

googled http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz To amend the US constitution requires a 2/3rds majority in Congress. All the small shitty states (no offense to anyone) think the electoral college gives them more clout (power), so they always vote against changing to direct election. There have been many attempts to change the system. Personally I also favor direct elections for president, and feel it is more representative of what the people want...

I'm agree but it's more power to less people states (1 vote to 150 000 people = 1 vote to 18 000 000 people).
In France : 1 vote = 1 person.
In number of people's votes, G.W.Bush don't have the major part. But the college vote gives to him the victory...

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz To amend the US constitution requires a 2/3rds majority in Congress. All the small shitty states (no offense to anyone) think the electoral college gives them more clout (power), so they always vote against changing to direct election. There have been many attempts to change the system. Personally I also favor direct elections for president, and feel it is more representative of what the people want...

Actually the EU is even more sick, in
the Council of Ministers (EU's supreme decicision-making body) every country has one vote, even if the country is Luxenburg or Germany... I live in sweden so for us this is a good system, but REALLY sick....

Yes but the President of Union Européenne doesn't exists yet. In the commission européenne, the "Commissaires" are designed by members countries. The more big the country is, the more they can design commissaire from their country. For example : France : 2 Commissaires Européens, Luxembourg : 1 Commissaire Européen.

And the Presidence of the Europe turns every six months. Since July 1st, Italy is the country that leads European Union.

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Originally posted by rizen googled http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm

back at you

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-261.html


"...and Reagan comes out an top"

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