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occrider
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Originally posted by NYGblue
So that is some people. You act as though that only happens in America? (just speculating.) You know Canadia aint perfect either pal.

Yes some ppl. are apolitical and allow themselves to be told what to believe. (happens EVERYWHERE) You will find most American's can think for themselves even if you don't agree with them. (And neither do I for the most part.) I find that most foreigners assumptions of the U.S. to be overly generalized and lacking in real experience in the country and with the people. As an American, you will never see me make an Anti-French statement. Because I know better than to believe all the bullshit that some politicians spew at me. Am I an exception, not really.


This happens outside of america????

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]Originally posted by TheDemon

Just proves how biased and stupid the Americans can be. Just because France didn't help them out with the Iraq war doesn't mean that they have to take it personally. But as usual that is the US and they're too iggnorant for their own good.


At any rate, I guess many people missed the point I was trying to make when I posted my Pol Pot quote in the education thread. Drug_Tito is most certainly correct in his statements in that the education system is designed to encourage thought and from then on it is the STUDENT'S responsibility to propogate growth. What, is mommy and daddy supposed to walk you hand in hand through every thought process???


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Originally posted by NYGblue
I think in the Universities you will find it is more liberal and therefore more thought-provoking. At least at my school, professors have opened my eyes to things I have never noticed before both about American Society and how we view the rest of the world, which has significant flaws. So in the end yes, your statement above holds true in my eyes.


Ok do u think the actual material studied is all that it could be?
This might be a stupid question because it depends on what u know and how it compares to what uve been taught.

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Mikado, the stuff we read is at the professors discretion (for class that is). What we read depends on what they think is good we read. They have a lot of leeway with this and given the class, they can pretty assign us anything without the school telling them not too. So yes I would generally say it is up to par, so far. I think you need to realize that the Universities in this country, especially the private ones do a good job. It is up to the students to push themselves to learn more about their surroundings and the world. Despite all of that you will find people who are what you might call "sheep". Or they might be thinking people who hold a different opinion from you despite having read and seen the same things you have. It happens you know..


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Ok do u think the actual material studied is all that it could be?
This might be a stupid question because it depends on what u know and how it compares to what uve been taught.


No one can teach everything. For example, we are learning new things right now as we speak, how could we teach that to everyone right now. In the united states the major majority of the population learns the most part of what they know in highschool and below. Highschool and below is free in this country. This schooling teaches you to learn and want to find out more about the truth of your surroundings. Taking the next step, going to college, is basically wanting to find out more about things. A good percentage of people in this country don't take that step because they don't want to find out more. You basically have to want to know about the truth to want it and believe it. For example, one of the harder places to teach to want to do this is an innner city school. The reason is, is that there are other things people are worring about before everything else. Like people bringing guns to school, drugs, and fights. Shure people could add more and more things to what is taught, and they do. Making a study that is all that it could be, takes money, time, practice, and People. Some of these things not all americans can afford. Also the evils of society atract people of lust and greed which doesn't allow these things. You have to want to learn the truth, you also have to make shure it is the truth. If a teacher told me something and said this is the truth i would have to go resaerch it to make shure, which i all ready do. If they put more things into the teaching i would have to spend more time making shure its the truth. I think the education system main goal is teaching me to want to do this and thats it. The education system could be better but its not worse.

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Originally posted by occrider
At any rate, I guess many people missed the point I was trying to make when I posted my Pol Pot quote in the education thread. Drug_Tito is most certainly correct in his statements in that the education system is designed to encourage thought and from then on it is the STUDENT'S responsibility to propogate growth. What, is mommy and daddy supposed to walk you hand in hand through every thought process???


I may have not caught on to the exact jist of your post but I was fairly sure it was along those lines....

Of course, we must remember that very little is mentioned in the American education system about the Khmer Rouge and the atrocities that they committed. I would venture a guess that most people who read that were saying to themselves: "Pol Pot? occrider is tlaking aboutsomething I have no clue about again...oh well".

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No one can teach everything. For example, we are learning new things right now as we speak, how could we teach that to everyone right now. In the united states the major majority of the population learns the most part of what they know in highschool and below. Highschool and below is free in this country. This schooling teaches you to learn and want to find out more about the truth of your surroundings. Taking the next step, going to college, is basically wanting to find out more about things. A good percentage of people in this country don't take that step because they don't want to find out more. You basically have to want to know about the truth to want it and believe it. For example, one of the harder places to teach to want to do this is an innner city school. The reason is, is that there are other things people are worring about before everything else. Like people bringing guns to school, drugs, and fights. Shure people could add more and more things to what is taught, and they do. Making a study that is all that it could be, takes money, time, practice, and People. Some of these things not all americans can afford. Also the evils of society atract people of lust and greed which doesn't allow these things. You have to want to learn the truth, you also have to make shure it is the truth. If a teacher told me something and said this is the truth i would have to go resaerch it to make shure, which i all ready do. If they put more things into the teaching i would have to spend more time making shure its the truth. I think the education system main goal is teaching me to want to do this and thats it. The education system could be better but its not worse.

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No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$


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No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$


Yea that is also true, Lust and greed.

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Yea that is also true. Lust and greed.
Yup thats why I am a cynical fuck...


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Re: Re: Are you true to the Environment?

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No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$


Well duh. Who's going to pay $30,000 a year for shits and giggles? That's why most universities have breath and development requirements. To ensure that students A)Know what they want to do and B) To give them a more well-rounded education. But like I said before, ultimately it's the student's responsibility to broaden their horizons.


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But like I said before, ultimately it's the student's responsibility to broaden their horizons.


I agree with this statement. I don't know about the shits and giggles though.

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