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rainbow_marble
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: København NV

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Tyler
this hole story is such a fucking joke.. ill continue to download music all i want, and if those pieces of shit come to my door, ill stab the motherfukers.


haha nice. im with this guy, im not afraid of them im gonna keep downloading music. i mean hey, downloading is how i decide what vinyl im going to buy next since i usually order off the internet. (i suppose vinyl is different than cd... but you get the picture)

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TeKnoHe@d2025
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Also, I just wanted to add: The press is going to love the news of this 12y/o girl getting sued. She's gonna be on all the late night shows & early morning shows you can think of. This will just add fuel to the fire against the RIAA...they're absolutely retarded!


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xKaoSx
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Diego, Ca.

OH hell no-

I just watched on the news how the RIAA is showing "concern" for in addition to their music being stolen a child might be searching for a britney spears song and acidentally download a britney spears porno or something.

Thats SOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking it.


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TeKnoHe@d2025
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quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
britney spears porno or something.


Britney Spears did a porno? Someone wanna hook me up? This is news to me!


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fuct4less
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Registered: May 2003
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i remember that there is a petition somewhere for people to sign to prevent the evil riaa actions.


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jinxed84
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Slightly South of Seoul

someone said "$3k PER SONG is still alot" when they said $3k it wasnt per song it was for the whole thing im pretty sure. it would be ridiculous to fine people that much money cuz they would never get it


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MrSquirrel
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: In a Tree.

The record sales figures are actually on par with what they were in 1999. There was a record amount of revenue in 2000 and it has dropped off from there. (saw a chart inthe paper today)

So the way I see it, the downturn in the economy has caused their revenues to shrink and instead of balming it on the poor economy like every other company they blame it on filesharing.

I have BOUGHT more cd's after downloading songs than I did before I used Napster. Simple truth.

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nrjizer
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** UPDATE **: They settled for $2000. The girl publically announced "I am sorry for what I have done. I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." I withdraw my previous post of how the mother should fight it (I RTFA'ed and theyre living in fucking public housing), I figured this was a middle class suburban family who might have the means and time to do something about it. Hell, they probably could have gotten away with it dispite their situation, but if I were the mom I wouldn't risk my kids future (even more) by potentially losing. $2000 out of the pocket of a single mom with 2 pre-teen kids is fucking pathetic.

And I bet the whole heartfelt apology from the little girl was all in the terms of the settlement, and that the RIAA "graciously" lowered the amount in exchange for the public apology. Good PR for them... poor little mislead honor student is educated in the error of her ways (for the small one time fee of $2000) and is now seeing the light. Pfft. Im gonna go fire up DC++ just for her....

Hurry up and die already, RIAA.


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Zombie14
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Registered: Jul 2003
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hmm.. this is a big controversial topic.. even heard people talking on the radio about it this morning

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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
** UPDATE **: They settled for $2000. The girl publically announced "I am sorry for what I have done. I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." I withdraw my previous post of how the mother should fight it (I RTFA'ed and theyre living in fucking public housing), I figured this was a middle class suburban family who might have the means and time to do something about it. Hell, they probably could have gotten away with it dispite their situation, but if I were the mom I wouldn't risk my kids future (even more) by potentially losing. $2000 out of the pocket of a single mom with 2 pre-teen kids is fucking pathetic.

And I bet the whole heartfelt apology from the little girl was all in the terms of the settlement, and that the RIAA "graciously" lowered the amount in exchange for the public apology. Good PR for them... poor little mislead honor student is educated in the error of her ways (for the small one time fee of $2000) and is now seeing the light. Pfft. Im gonna go fire up DC++ just for her....

Hurry up and die already, RIAA.


Pathtic man.


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loconet
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco
Behold, my arse.

And to follow up... these f***in bastards made her pay! They settled for $2k.


quote:

source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...ic_11&printer=1

Girl, 12, Settles Piracy Suit for $2,000
Tue Sep 9, 7:19 PM ET


By TED BRIDIS, AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON - A 12-year-old girl in New York who was among the first to be sued by the record industry for sharing music over the Internet is off the hook after her mother agreed Tuesday to pay $2,000 to settle the lawsuit, apologizing and admitting that her daughter's actions violated U.S. copyright laws.



The hurried settlement involving Brianna LaHara, an honors student, was the first announced one day after the Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites) filed 261 such lawsuits across the country. Lawyers for the RIAA said Brianna's mother, Sylvia Torres, contacted them early Tuesday to negotiate.

"We understand now that file-sharing the music was illegal," Torres said in a statement distributed by the recording industry. "You can be sure Brianna won't be doing it anymore."

Brianna added: "I am sorry for what I have done. I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love."

The case against Brianna was a potential minefield for the music industry from a public relations standpoint. The family lives in a city housing project on New York's Upper West Side, and they said they mistakenly believed they were entitled to download music over the Internet because they had paid $29.99 for software that gives them access to online file-sharing services.

Even in the hours before the settlement was announced, Brianna was emerging as an example of what critics said was overzealous enforcement by the powerful music industry.

The top lawyer for Verizon Communications Inc. charged earlier Tuesday during a Senate hearing that music lawyers had resorted to a "campaign against 12-year-old girls" rather than trying to help consumers turn to legal sources for songs online. Verizon's Internet subsidiary is engaged in a protracted legal fight against the RIAA over copyright subpoenas sent Verizon customers.

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., also alluded to Brianna's case.

"Are you headed to junior high schools to round up the usual suspects?" Durbin asked RIAA President Cary Sherman during a Senate Judiciary hearing.

Durbin said he appreciated the piracy threat to the recording industry, but added, "I think you have a tough public relations campaign to go after the offenders without appearing heavy-handed in the process."

Sherman responded that most people don't shoplift because they fear they'll be arrested.

"We're trying to let people know they may get caught, therefore they should not engage in this behavior," Sherman said. "Yes, there are going to be some kids caught in this, but you'd be surprised at how many adults are engaged in this activity."


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ali92
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
Seriously- I think I've bought maybe software and cd's a total i can count on one hand-

I would rather have an original- its not 192k sound quality is better- they cost the RIAA like less than $1 to make- lets do some math here on who really is getting paid what- Standard price on a cd now is what? I Dont even know- I havnt been in stores lately- Last time I checked like $16 for a single cd? That's fucking rediculous.
I bet their actual sales profits would double if they dropped that down to like $8

Who's going to organize this shit- need some volunteers :P


0.85-0.9 USD for every 10 minutes sounds reasonable for me. Think about it: Right now, you can end up paying over 15-20 USD for a 45 minute album that you only wanted to hear what, 3-8 minutes of? The artist only gets maybe 0.01 USD from a single CD's sale. No wonder CD sales have declined when Napster was shut down: Users had nowhere to go to find out what they wanted to sample to buy. If you don't know what to buy, you most likely wouldn't be playing a guessing game with what you think may sound good. That sounds dumb. I always like to hear something before I put my money into it. Since 1999, I've bought over 70 CDs that I LOVE-- completely. It's rather rare to find a CD where you like every single track but, with MP3, it's a whole lot easier to find out what's worth buying and what isn't. It's pathetic that the 12-year-old girl is getting pressured by the RIAA. The big problems with these big music/movie/software companies like RIAA, MPAA, IDSA(?) and whoever's with them is that they've made their money already but they're GREEDY! They want MORE AND MORE! They don't care about the quality of music, just the quantity of money they get.

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