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Voting is one part of democracy. Most of the rest is missing.
No separation between religion and state
> ofcourse there is seperation, however, lets not forget the main reason for ceating this country was to gather all jews in a safe and secure country of their own, and put a stop to 2000 years of jews oppresion and antisemitism.
in every releagion here, if they wish, poeple can marry under the "control" of tehir own relegion representitives, jews, muslems, cristians, druz..
and yes if you wish you can have a civil, non-religius marige.
and remember its not a regular state again, this satate was created as a jewish country.
Non-Jews are discriminated in most areas
>well, if someone feels he is being discriminated only beacause of his relegion, he can go to the High Court, like in any other democracy.
and man, you can understand that since and 30 or more years before the Independence of Israel, Jews suffred from countless atacks from the muslem sorrounding them, and you can understand why induviduals may feel uncomfortable to work with them or watever.
and again, if there is a problem like that, we always have the high court, that is ABOVE the goverment.
Religious laws dictate the life-style of non-religious Israeli citizens
> Yes it is a little problem, but lets not exaggerate ok?.
what happens is, that buses are not working in satarday.
also some stores, prefer not to open in satturdays, maybe because of religion issues, or economic (afraid to loose the religius customres).
also the big stores, and most of them, sell only Kosher food, but man if you want not kosher food there are alot of other stores\restaurants you can find it in.
no law says anything about Kosher food, it all comes from respect to thetradition, and religion.
Even today, after 50 years of independence, Israel has no constitution
> SO WHAT?
we have laws! plenty of them
if i'm not getting wrong here, also UK dont have a constituation.
and i'm sure there are more Eourupean democracies, witout a constitusaion.
50 years is not that much, and still alot of laws getting evolved and fixed.
oh c'mon thats bullshit
30% of all people living under Israeli control do not enjoy civil, or even human rights
> so what you are talkign about are the palestinians, living in the terretoris.
look man, before the oslo agreement, after 67', Israel was the true Controller of the terretoris,
however, the oslo agreements, gave alot of independence to the PLO.
all the palestinian civil and human right, were in the control of the PLO. and man, until 2000, they had achieved alot, and i already wrote about it some posts before this one.
but then the intifada again.
still the PLO demands control of the palertinian population , so dont go and blame Israel here.
Parts of the education system are controlled by the secret service
> hmmmm....... what parts? what are you talking about?
80% of Israel's resources belong to 10% of its citizens
> well, i dont know much about that issue...
and just know, that this sittuation , is always getting better, it just takes time,
its not Comunism here!
More than 1000 people are held in administrative custody without being charged, and with no time limits
> those people, also so called Terrorists.
Israel is the only country that has a law that allows interrogators to use torture
> not on citizen of israel, also not arab citizens.
maybe when it concerns terror militants, that their invistigation can help the army to prevent future terror attack.
All mass media channels are held by a handful of families
In Israel, the government has the right to shut down a newspaper
Non Jewish citizens are forbidden from buying state-owned land
> also in other countries , democracies in Eorupe you can find the same sittuation.
its Buiesness, its normal.
its a democracy, not a Comunism !
I would say Israel is more like a militocracy. The military is the number one role model for children. Giving candy to soldiers is what children do on Halloween. Every Prime Minister of Israel was a general in the military. When parents ask their children what they want to be when they grow up, they don't say doctor or engineer or astronaut, they say a soldier.
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OH PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
man you just dont know what your talking about!
no one here wants to be a slodier.
everybody simply has to do it here for 3 years as an obligatory!
and man if not our brave millitary, There was not ISrael, and you know it, and fuck give me another democracy in the world that was attacked so many times by so many countries in a time only in its 50 years of indipendence (and much before)!?
ha!?
its bullshit what your talking about.
and like USA is noot proud of its military!
and fuck it man, one thinng is when a soldier is a model, when on the other side the suicide bombers are the model.
and i did spend 11 years inside education system in israel.
and you know what they always talk about with kids?
no wars. no soldiers.
little kids sing and write songs and papers in school talking about pigeons with olive leafs in their mouth. singing songs about peace.
fuck!, you know nothing realy.
and if you compare it to the education undr the PLO....maaaan
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