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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

oh my god..

ok imma write it slow and immma write my OPINION

pvd will possibly win dj of the year because of the hype surrounding reflections and hype of him overall


IMO

skill isnt there for paul van dyk anymore...his sets have a big percentage of pvd "productions in them"

compare avenues vs. reflection

remix of binary finary vs. pvd rework of blackeight

words vs. connected


YOU TELL ME....PVd should of won dj of the year in that era when those tunes there added high value to his sets

Today he is gibberish


you said 7 tunes out of 40something had his name..ur wrong it was more like 11 counting his reedit and reworks.



Someone with skills and no high calibar popularity like pvd should win..like sasha

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AndskiSpeed
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: stoke

quote:
[pvd will possibly win dj of the year because of the hype surrounding reflections and hype of him overall


Thats the first good poin you've made there, I totally agree with you, but really as well aa that theres been the continued hype of Tiesto with Nyana, TiC, as well as him being #1 from last year, while Armins been very popular this year with 76, Motorcycle remix etc etc


quote:
skill isnt there for paul van dyk anymore

you said 7 tunes out of 40something had his name..ur wrong it was more like 11 counting his reedit and reworks.


Pretty pointless you mentioning those really, because he only edits small parts of the songs eg bassline, and pitch of the melody in the case of Mainx - 88 To Piano (Paul van Dyk Rework) for him to play in his sets and not as anything he claims to be his own



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Someone with skills and no high calibar popularity like pvd should win..like sasha


And thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard, if PvD has high calibre popularity and Sasha doesn't then I'm Jesus H. Christ


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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

quote:





And thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard, if PvD has high calibre popularity and Sasha doesn't then I'm Jesus H. Christ



u got me on that one


the amt of pvd lovers on ta is making me insane

im scared of going to the darkside

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AndskiSpeed
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: stoke

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
u got me on that one


the amt of pvd lovers on ta is making me insane

im scared of going to the darkside


Lol I feel your pain But hey, its as bad as you make it for yourself


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SuperFarStucker
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Seattle, WA

Sasha is an immensely popular DJ.... as to paul , his sets are okay, but I just don't feel he is "number one" material. Compare energy 2k3 set (very popular set by paul) to Tiesto's broadcasted amnesia set(also a popular recent one) ... IMO tiesto wins hands down in all respects (I don't have much of an ear for mixing, but I didn't notice any obvious wrecks or such). It's a rather pedantic scope of the situation, since they both play many many sets every year, but i just don't feel paul's sets are even of the same caliber as say; Tiesto. YMMV

Personally, sets by the likes of Lemon8, Sasha, etc. are far more interesting to me =)


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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

posers are there to remind normal people that they're normal and to prevent normal people from turning into posers.


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Joca
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Victoria
Re: re:

quote:
Originally posted by Sweet_As_Fcuk
Peoples tastes change as do dj's styles.Tiesto was my favourite last year but i don't really dig his new style.



At the end of last year and the begining of this year, Tiesto's sets were awesome. Partly because I liked the tracks he was spining back then but like you, I can't stand some of his recent sets.

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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
Sasha is an immensely popular DJ.... as to paul , his sets are okay, but I just don't feel he is "number one" material. Compare energy 2k3 set (very popular set by paul) to Tiesto's broadcasted amnesia set(also a popular recent one) ... IMO tiesto wins hands down in all respects (I don't have much of an ear for mixing, but I didn't notice any obvious wrecks or such). It's a rather pedantic scope of the situation, since they both play many many sets every year, but i just don't feel paul's sets are even of the same caliber as say; Tiesto. YMMV

Personally, sets by the likes of Lemon8, Sasha, etc. are far more interesting to me =)


i agree. but it's more a thing of personal taste. the kind of track selection and track structure that Tiesto puts out in a set like that appeals to me much more than anything PvD has ever done. I love PvD, I love the high intensity and energy of his sets, they are the best for partying. But a good Tiesto set....that can be a religious experience for ME

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CrackedLcd
Stuff Dreams R Made Of



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: With Fungirls In Maryland

I still like tiesto for some reason even though I wasn't feeling his sets from last winter. He is still #1. Great sets this summer. I'm still not a fan of G&D or PvD like a lot of ppl all of a sudden have become. I'm not into prog and there isn't enough nrg in PvD's sets and production imo. I think that a lot of ppl see these OMG when ppl post something or all of there friends like a person and they just go along with . Next year it will be someone else.


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Scorchio
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

I Actually agree with you on this...
I've liked PvD, Tiesto, Sasha, Diggers, Warren and others for a long time.
But I dont think either of them deserved to be the No. 1.

My number 1 DJ will always be John 00 Flemming, its too bad hes so unederated.


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caddyshack
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Lansing
Re: Re: Why do posers have to exist?

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec
quite frankly i dont see wut the big deal about pvd is..

i will be extremely dissappointed if he wins dj of the year with his unpolished productions.


yeah thats pretty frank, but a DJ isn't a producer, so it shouldn't matter either way... anyways, his productions are awesome, and alot of people agree with me i think cause he was ranked #2 producer on this site. here is the link.

PVD for number 1!!!

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DJDigDug
Trolling when not Rolling



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Indio, Calif. US

Fuck pvd, and tiesto (both deliver great sets and pretty fine productions[used the fword to feel like pvd ]) but atm
JAMES ZABIELA delivers more talent in his sets than anyone i have ever seen, he is 23 or 24 now, and already i feel he brings more talent to the scene than PvD or tijs, dont get me wrong i love them both but Zabiela does more in two hours than most djs would do in two days. For Djing ability zabiela is the future, I feel tiesto had a better year than pvd this year, so i voted him higher than pvd, i also voted for the likes of moshic, josh gabriel, and zabiela, as well as pvd ranking in on the bottom of my list , pvd delivers great sets, but he isnt really doing innovative things in them, Josh gabriel, when working with dave dresden has begun a new trend of playing acapella tracks over trance songs, people love it, zabiela samples scratches and does just about everything technology allows him to do with 2 hands, moshic is bringing a very quality sound to the clubbing world i feel, where as pvd seemed to deliver the same ol pvd sets, in one hand pvd has quality sets and i wouldnt skip seeing him live, but in staying in the old ways is he really doing things worthy of the number one spot, tiesto has been exploring new genres and going pretty hogwild this year and i feel while he may not have been completely worthy last year he has lived up to the title in the year following.


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