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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Re: Re: Re: Re: yawn

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Originally posted by Flotser
first of all dont you call me a fucking idiot for your unwillingess to understand what i've said. now i will try to explain this again. The clip, without the nerrartion! is enough to prove a thing about palestinian television. so what if the nerration was abit pro-israeli? that doest change the fact Arafat is calling on national tv for children to throw rocks on tanks. its a fact that those 2 girls in the clip Were interviewd on the national tv saying all those scary stuff, those 2 girls were not picked by an israeli for propaganda causes. all those clips and songs about "Shahada" are facts - you cant call it bias, its taken from palsetinian tv. The Natianaol palestinian channel played again and again the clip honoring the female suicide bomber! and you wont say its the Hizbulla or Hamas channel, its national tv. sad fact - you saw it in your own eyes, even if you dont wanna bbelieve a word of israeli nerration. and all you saying the "Shahid" and "Terrorist" is not the same, whatch that clip again, and see that they sing "but you choose Shada". The sacred act of Shada in Muslim religion, is turned and interpreted as suicide bombing attacks - by the national channel, face the truth. Also that religion leader calling for everyone to go blow themeslves up in Hadera, Tel-Aviv and Natanya is not an israeli propaganda and not an imagination of the nerrator - but its live fact, again taken from the national tv channel. "I will blow myself among the Jews"!.
you can not agree with the conclusion in the ending, but overall the nerration is respectful and doesnt uses stupid terms (not like in Palestians's Articles calling IDF , "The Israeli Occupation Army").
Finally, you can write watever you want, but video like this shawing only real clips, no one's imagination, no metter how its nerrated, it is the livest fact one can ask for.


Youstill fail to look at that clip from an objective point of view. Do you not realize that some of thiose phrases could have been taken out of context and MADE to look bad without the direct narration of it. Do you not see how that clip equates palestinian patriotism with terrorism?

Yes there are those pals that want to kill jews, and those who will fight the military machine which watches every move they make.

You criticize the enthusiam these children have in wanting to protect their people and land, yet you dont speak about how millions of Israeli teenagers cant wait to serve the military and protect their nation.

I know a girl who went to Isreal this summer and she told me countless times how many of the teenagers there speak of the military and their love of serving.

She even quoted one saying that "nothing is better than serving your nation, launching a rocket into GAZA and killing all those terrorists"

You have a military, they dont, but both children on both sides are esentially shaheeds, wanting to fight for their nation.


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Registered: Jan 2002
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Originally posted by occrider
I'll agree. However, personally I think Sharon is a good matchup against Arafat . The two were meant for each other ... Rabin was no match against Arafat's duplicity.


well in that case lets throw both of them in some island and let them live happy forver!!this way others wont have to suffer from them!!


and about all you guys saying how suicide bombing is wrong,I agree,and it is not fair.SO lets be fair,give the Palastinians an army just like the one Isreal has with all the latest technology and then we'll have a fair game!!!


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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

ignoring the whole third page....

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Originally posted by occrider
Hehe only cuz the Israelis are such hardasses on him and won't let him go anywhere . His wife is most certainly living the life in Paris at the expense of Palestinian taxpayers ..


Yup, this 60 minute article (which I watched) said Arafat's wife has an "allowance" of $100,000 monthly - or if you like $1,200,000 a year (now thats a good job)!

Sharon is a good match for Arafat, and I believe if Arafat is gone, and Sharon doesn't lighten up, the Israeli people will get another guy into office. I see Sharon however as a very flexible man, adapting to his time, and I forsee him adapting to a new canidate after Arafat and doing the best for Israel and a two state solution.


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Now granted I take everything I read with a grain of salt but I have no doubts in my mind that Arafat is bad for the Palestinan people. He is extremely smart, and extremely manipulative ... as evidenced by his ability to stay in power for SUCH a long time when Israeli PMs (and what looks to be Palestinian Pms) have come and gone ...


As for the grain of salt, the CBS 60 minute article backed up its findings by Arafat's very own independent committee (chaired by a what they portrayed as a very hoenst and hard working independent Palestinian, very economic savvy, threatened many times for his straight up reports in uncovering the truth) who contracts this investigaiton (into "where this Palestinian money was relocated too") to a indepentend American financial consulting firm. This firm is basically day to day tracing back the paper trail and uncovering how and where Arafat has horded his money overtime.

CBS mentioned however that despite his life Araft does seem to live a very Spartan lifestyle, especially after Israel destroyed his HQ last year... They did mention also that Arafat pays IN CASH, $20 million monthly to his security forces. This is obviously what keeps them loyal and in his power.



I'll agree. However, personally I think Sharon is a good matchup against Arafat . The two were meant for each other ... Rabin was no match against Arafat's duplicity.


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TheDemon
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Registered: Aug 2002
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Originally posted by TranceGiant
Eh I have a question!
What's your point? Anybody who's interested can read the latest (UNbiased) news himself. Should I post that sleeping pic again...


Whats your point? why you acting like an ass?


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