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T_2199
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: An der schönen Stadt am Main (Frankfurt)

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Because then you at least make an effort to explain why you don't like it, instead of just spitting random "this sucks" in every thread you feel like posting in. This of course goes for all the OMG-ers as well without any info whatsoever on what actually makes them like the track. It's all about bothering to bring some constructive criticism(just "there's something about this track that just turns me off, dunn why but I just can't get myself to like this" or something similar will do plenty in your case Nik), and if you can't even bother to do that you might as well stfu.




If anyone would follow this rule it would be a even better forum.


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DjAC
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Indiana

I agree. I may be new around here, but the OMG posts from people(EVEN MODS!!) really get on my nerves. And Mr Mystery seems to really hate himself or something. It's too bad

If you're gonna post OMG, or THIS SUCKS. Give something, ANYTHING to validate that argument.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil
Re: Elitist Pricks...

quote:
Originally posted by DeleriuM2K
theres too many of them here jeez
so many people have that 'Im underground' attitude.
just cause you really like one type of music doesnt mean you should shut out all others.

my philosophy: if it sounds good, enjoy it. No matter what the genre/artist

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Because then you at least make an effort to explain why you don't like it, instead of just spitting random "this sucks" in every thread you feel like posting in. This of course goes for all the OMG-ers as well without any info whatsoever on what actually makes them like the track. It's all about bothering to bring some constructive criticism(just "there's something about this track that just turns me off, dunn why but I just can't get myself to like this" or something similar will do plenty in your case Nik), and if you can't even bother to do that you might as well stfu.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
Oh sheesh...

Yes, some people are going to bash tracks. That's fine, if everyone was really "tolerant" of tracks then no one would be expressing musical taste. Here are some suggestions:
1. Don't get personally offended when some disagrees with your choice of music.
2. Don't post flames without reasons. If you say "I don't like X because..." then your post is worthwhile.
3. Don't post "OMG!" in every thread. It becomes predictable and annoying. Try adding some real substance to the discussion.



These guys have said it all. As for the "people with custom status listen to other genres but hate trance" statement, this is true till the word "but": after listening to trance for so long, they're bound to know more about other genres too, and they've been listening to trance for a while, so they might listen to other genres more than trance at times. I know that I listen to techno, hard house and drum'n'bass a lot more than trance lately, UK hard (acid) trance being an exception.

It's also annoying when you want to talk about other genres of electronic music, including hip hop, and haters arise. If you hate the genre, that's okay, but let others talk about what they want and don't bother reading it!


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Old Post Jan-20-2004 17:54  Brazil
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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
[i][b]Originally posted by DjAC And Mr Mystery seems to really hate himself or something. It's too bad

So you're a psychologist then?


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

Its a fucking FORUM people! Where people argue different points of view. Trance is too massive a genre for anyone to like all of it, so what do you expect?

The general complaint here is people who slag everything off as "cheese". This is a thing, cos cheese is DJ Sammy etc. Cheese is not anything that sells, is popular, isn't minimalistic plonk prog house or is uplifting.

Elitists may annoy us, but everyone knows they're talking shit, and telling them this will usually shut them up.

LAST POINT: You can spam 500 posts in a month. Post count has jack shit to do with musical knowledge.


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Shad0wmaster
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
average TA
TA in training - DJ SAMMY IS THE BEST, HAVE YOU HEARD DARUDE SANDSTORM??????? SASHA IS A GIRL
TA junior DI.FM OMG DJ DOBOY
ta senior - omg andain beautiful things
custom - omg everything sux but prog/techno/house (pick one) TRANCE SUX


*sigh* moron...

i never, ever, ever sang DJ Sammy's praises, in fact i've wasted a lot of time bashing him and his music...i never liked DJ Doboy....I was a supreme ta by the time i heard beautiful things and trance is still teh OWNAGE...


so stfu.


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DjAC
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Indiana

quote:
So you're a psychologist then?


You're smarter than I was giving you credit for

No hard feelings you understand, I just hate to see someone so angry. It's such a waste of energy. Especially when we're discussing music.

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auujay
The Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
average TA
TA in training - DJ SAMMY IS THE BEST, HAVE YOU HEARD DARUDE SANDSTORM??????? SASHA IS A GIRL
TA junior DI.FM OMG DJ DOBOY
ta senior - omg andain beautiful things
custom - omg everything sux but prog/techno/house (pick one) TRANCE SUX


Damn this is funny shit. I don't know why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. I mean the reason it is so funny is because it is so true, but obviosly they are stereotypical generalizations that do not pertain to every single TA. Note the "average TA" clause at the top of the post; if you do not do this stuff, take heart for you are truely special and not "average".


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sharvax
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Hong Kong / San Francisco, CA

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
average TA
TA in training - DJ SAMMY IS THE BEST, HAVE YOU HEARD DARUDE SANDSTORM??????? SASHA IS A GIRL
TA junior DI.FM OMG DJ DOBOY
ta senior - omg andain beautiful things
custom - omg everything sux but prog/techno/house (pick one) TRANCE SUX


..and then you've got those TAs in training who have been browsing the boards for some one and a half years.

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auujay
The Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland

One more thing.........

Andain - Beautiful Things rules


.... but you knew that already.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by DjAC
You're smarter than I was giving you credit for

No hard feelings you understand, I just hate to see someone so angry. It's such a waste of energy. Especially when we're discussing music.

And what makes you think I am angry?


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Old Post Jan-20-2004 18:41  Finland
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beema
too deep



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: NoVAMansLand

First off, you gotta realize, Trance Addict is an internet forum dedicated to the discussion of trance music. Generally speaking, the type of people who will seek out, join, and discuss on a site like this, are going to be of a more elitist demeanor than your average music listener/clubber.

Second, for those of us who have been here for more than a few months: the more time we spend in this type of arena, the more time we spend immersed in this music, the more discriminating our tastes become, but at the same time, our tastes for other types of music become broader, and our scope on trance music as a whole is put more into perspective, ie, similar trends in music are more easily discernable, and we have seen the same questions asked over and over.

So, in refernce to the elitis pricks who inhabit this forum, I think it is a fair defense to say that not all of them are close-minded ignorant twats (although we have plenty of those as well). They are simply elder TA's, who have become jaded, cynical, and imbittered over time. Just like me!

I am, however, of the opinion that all types of music should be respected, regardless of how much you dont like a particular style. But, I don't think it is elitist to say for instance "I think this is shit." That would be an opinion, and discussion forums are founded on opinions. Opinion is needed for TA to keep running.


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