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Originally posted by Cru54d3r sleepy you given up on drugs completely then? as for psychedelics of any kind .. i doubt they will ever replace xtc .. sure xtc aint as popular as it used to be .. but its main appeal was that you wouldnt go under in a club due to hallucinations of any kind .. unless you were hardcore and did like 10+ ..

well im at that stage where im having doubts about taking stuff i dont really know why i do take drugs to be honest it might have more to do with the fact that im in a club enviroment.
I havent been out without taking something for nearly 2 years pretty sad really i almost expect myself to be on drugs when out and be in a certain state.
Im sure my memory has got 10 times worse aswell since i started doing pills.

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Some people I know have taken 2ci and loved it

Maybe with all this competition coming up, thats why the little fellahs have been getting better recently (or so I've heard )

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Originally posted by sleepydragon well im at that stage where im having doubts about taking stuff i dont really know why i do take drugs to be honest it might have more to do with the fact that im in a club enviroment. I havent been out without taking something for nearly 2 years pretty sad really i almost expect myself to be on drugs when out and be in a certain state. Im sure my memory has got 10 times worse aswell since i started doing pills.

I know far too well what you mean .. if it wasnt for the poor availability and choice of other similar drugs id have moved on to something new a while ago .. but id feel empty going clubbing without consuming anything .. true in a way that makes me feel a bit like a dirty addict haah .. but ive been to a few nights w/o consuming and although you feel better when you get back home and the next day you simply dont enjoy the clubbing experience as much .. body aches .. more irritable to certain things .. no will to dance (though with some pills these days .. more so then before all that happens is that you end up monging out and sitting it through) :/

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Originally posted by Cru54d3r (though with some pills these days .. more so then before all that happens is that you end up monging out and sitting it through) :/

aye, one of the main reason i try not to take pills at all anymore

i mean, did i even dance at all all night?

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Originally posted by Cru54d3r I know far too well what you mean .. if it wasnt for the poor availability and choice of other similar drugs id have moved on to something new a while ago .. but id feel empty going clubbing without consuming anything .. true in a way that makes me feel a bit like a dirty addict haah .. but ive been to a few nights w/o consuming and although you feel better when you get back home and the next day you simply dont enjoy the clubbing experience as much .. body aches .. more irritable to certain things .. no will to dance (though with some pills these days .. more so then before all that happens is that you end up monging out and sitting it through) :/

i think its timeyou did some skag

have you tried MDMA powder? it rocks.

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yuh, 2 points then:

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Britain has outlawed all of these drugs - under an amendment to the Misuse Of Drugs Act in February 2002]

soooo ... if you order some and it gets caught by Customs & Excise, they pretty much have you cold - since you ordered it with a credit card, and it has your name and address on the package.

By the way, 2c-i is a controlled substance in Germany, whoever thought it wasn't.

http://www.emcdda.eu.int/policy_law/joint_action_nsd/risk_assessment.shtml.
European Union's EMCDDA Scientific Committee's Report on the Risk Assessment of 2C-I in the Framework of the Joint Action on New Synthetic Drugs by EMCDDA Scientific Committee Apr 1 2003
states:

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An analysis of the legal status of 2C-I in the Member States shows that the drug is controlled in 5 EU Member States. 2C-I is non-controlled drug in the USA. In Germany, 2C-I was placed under permanent control on 19 June 2001. The substance was already under control on a temporary basis since 1999. The arguments for placing these kinds of drugs under permanent control, which can be found in the legal text 'Funfzehnte Betaeubungsmittelrects-Aenderungsverordnung-15 BTMAndV" of 19 June 2001, are the following: (i) substances being used as 'ecstasy drugs'; and (ii) produced by illegal labs modifying the chemical structure of illegal drugs in order to achieve that these will not fall under the law ('designer drugs'). In the UK, 2C-I fells[sic] within the definition of a controlled substance (Class A) by virtue of a generic description as set by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977. In Ireland, 2C-I is a controlled drug under Schedule 1 of the Misuse of Drugs Acts, arising from the generic control approach. Denmark has placed 2C-I under control since May 2002 ('Bekendtg0relse nr 305 af 16. maj 2002 om aendring af bekendtg0relse om euforserende stoffer'). In Greece, the drug is controlled under Table A of the Law 1729/87.

re: 2c-i

I tried some in New York in June this year. A word of caution: this stuff is STRONG - like LSD-strong. Long (eg 10-hr) trips and if it goes wrong, no way to kill it. I am not joking about this. Also: very easy to get the dosage wrong; and unfortunately optimal dosage can vary quite a lot from one individual to another.

Some advice a friend gave:

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Dosage is extremely important. For your first time, I don't suggest anything over 15mg. I wouldn't suggest anything over 25mg max either. Be VERY careful measuring the stuff. You need very little of it and you might not feel anything for up to two hours. Don't get greedy.

I also know one person in the States that had a very, very bad experience which lasted 8 hours. He swore he would never touch it again. Altho, on the other hand, I know a lot of people there that completely rated it as an experience, but it had to be managed with care.

Since that original article was published there was a BIG clamp-down by the U.S. authorities in July on the on-line "research chemicals" suppliers.

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr072204.html

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Originally posted by tu_face have you tried MDMA powder? it rocks.

yea did it at zogg .. made a change eating little mdma bombed rizzla wraps .. much easier to swallow then a smartie .. though thinking about it they perhaps could have been stronger .. split 250ish 4ways .. thought 3ways might have been a tad strong? anyhow comeup seemed a little different .. though didnt have much will to dance much until the end (perhaps the lack of amphet.?) .. there was a period that seemed a little spaced out instead of the usual monged out (so to describe it) and the comedown was definately a major plus .. very clean and easy with no shit feelings ..

Might well do it again though i have high hopes on 2cb providing something new and interesting ..

As for those complaining about troubles with 2cs .. well its no surprise given that people are taking them with no research and clearly without accurate scales to be able to weigh out an accurate dosage to at least 1mg accuracy .. since a little extra makes a big difference its no suprise people go under .. guess in that sense its no different to new comers to ket ..