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trancenrg69
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Starting with February (I think) issue, FM (future music) magazine has a series of write-ups on Hardware VS Software. The Moog software cam close but didn't win, but FM-7 (NI) did - even Brian Eno said that aside from maybe a few particluar quirks that the instrument has, he could not tell the difference between real yamaha and VSTi. VSTis have come a long way. With advance of controllers like MicroKorg and Novation 25 you'll soon see VSTis place HW out of business. That's why companies like Novation are getting into the sw market and getting out of the HW market. Hell, roland tried it with their VariOS (which many claim is a $1000 dongle). ONce manufacturers of soft vst'is will figure out to secure their products, it's buh-bye hardware. You'll probably see just hard-core companies stick around, like Access, Waldorf, Oberheim, Roland, and Korg, Clavia. The rest will go the way of dodo. Give it maybe 4-5 years (or less).


Emulating the fm7 isn't rocket science. Moogs, cs80's, imposcars, these are 20-30 year old synths which is why it's possible to emulate them, and still on a p3.2ghz you can run but a few before your cpu usage goes belly up. Try emulating a virus c or nord 3 , no chance.

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take a look at the nord 3, it has 6 dsp chips. and the virus c dsp is unknown. hardware will never go buh bye, in your generation or in your childrens. sure powercore just released the virus vst, but i don't think they are worried about piracy, since the powercore card acts as a nice 500 dollar dongle. As software gets better so will hardware. hardware will always be one step ahead.

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rb2k1
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Hmm.. my thoughts on why hardware companies may be making vsts such as the case with Novation V-Station VST:

1: They Get Spread Like Rapid Fire On The Internet Spreading Novations Name like crazy.

2: It was to showcase a hardware synth they had in their line (k-station).

3: I actually like this vst and find it usefull on occasion.

4: There is a real market for them. People do think they are hardware replacements.

5: They Sell (IF PRICED PROPERLY)

My Reaction: I went to Novations site and Looked up their hardware synths, the vst (which has been said to be 1/4 the thickness of the real k-station) made me want to investigate in buying a Novation Hardware Synthesizer.

Well Whatever you all see what im saying.

WE NEED TO MAKE 2 NEW SECTIONS INSIDE THE PRODUCTION FORUM:
HARDIES AND SOFTIES, what do you want to be considered?


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My Reaction: I went to Novations site and Looked up their hardware synths, the vst (which has been said to be 1/4 the thickness of the real k-station) made me want to investigate in buying a Novation Hardware Synthesizer.


What do you mean by 1/4 thickness. Like how phat or wide the sound is?

Must say the sample you posted was pretty good. I'm not disagreeing with you about the whole software can't do that, but the sound was drenched in effects, namely reverb.


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trancenrg69
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Agreed Ross, I demoed thw k-station at the music shop a few times and it sounds so much better. The sound is way thicker, clearer, crisper, and the filters sound better than the v-station.

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rb2k1
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Hey, the only fx i used on that sample i posted are native effects to the JP-8080. Everyone knows the jp isnt full of great effects but what i used on the sound were Delay and Chorus. No reverb was used. No external effects were applied either.


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Yeah, some synths if you give it a good delay, it'll sound like reverb. It happens with my Nova, so I never use the built-in reverb. The delay sounds cleaner and more controlled.

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rb2k1
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I agree rico

Also, NRG that is the exact thing that i mean about the k-station

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RiCo
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REVIVED from the dead, hahaha. Sorry, guys, but I somehow came up with this thread in Google. It was good discussion. For the participants of this thread, do you still have the same opinion as when you posted here? I still do!

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I rembember this thread when i didnt have my JP-8000
I still have the sample of Rb2k1 is somebody can upload again.

btw there are possibilities of upload the tutorial again?
I can get a very close sound, but is something wrong with the EQ i think.

Ross apart from the internal fxs have also eq'ed the sample?

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