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Shad0wmaster
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
So what if people like her are not the proverbial sharp tools in the shed when it comes to music? What is complaining about her going to accomplish? Are people like her bringing down the music scene?


Yes. They perpetuate the existence of cheese factories like DJ Sammy and Ian van Dahl. I suggest you give the girl a CD of _quality_ vocal trance to listen to, and if she doesn't like it then let her continue to listen to fruity crap that she calls 'techno'.


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Thats because almost all normal trance isnt suitable for that shit. Its far too melodic, and less emphasis is given to percussion, so its hard to be creative and fuck about a lot with it. Thats why i prefer mixing techno/hard house/tech trance etc.

Not really, not even those 32-bar melody tunes (which are not that bad when dropped every now and then, instead of being played one after another). Although I'm a programmer rather than a DJ...

1) Build-ups: This gives you a lot of opportunity to play another music in the background and fill the "gap". Not to mention that (i don't know whether this is possible when you're playing live) but you could also play the build-up along with the final beats of the previous tune: this way, you don't have empty beats nor straight melody, but a combo of both (which makes the transition even smoother).
2) Harmony: Tunes with simpler harmonies fit better when played on top of each other (like Lucid's Out there with Robert Miles' Children) but when you have a music which is far too melodic, there's no problem if you play some tribal techno to fill build-ups or to strenghten the beat. If you have a sampler, or you can loop samples using something else, that's even better... a thing I like to do is to loop a random bar of an epic tune and develop it into a transition to another tune (usually not trance).
3) Crossing genres: Epic trance fits nicely together with nrg, hard house, tribal techno/trance, acid techno/trance... and if you have problems with the bpms, you can use the build-ups for this purpose

I could go on and on with it


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Old Post Mar-02-2004 16:59  Brazil
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jdat
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: I dont even know

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Not really, not even those 32-bar melody tunes (which are not that bad when dropped every now and then, instead of being played one after another). Although I'm a programmer rather than a DJ...

1) Build-ups
2) [b]Harmony[/b
3) [b]Crossing genres[/b
I could go on and on with it


1. and 2. are not technical points but something you should consider basic and essential. 3. is not a technical skill... to an extent.

Name me ONE trance dj that really goes technical in his mix? ( no flame wars please )

Technical as in numerous cuts, playing around as much as possible while all in control.

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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
and so is whiskers




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Tranc3
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Santa Cruz, CA, US

quote:
Originally posted by Shad0wmaster
Yes. They perpetuate the existence of cheese factories like DJ Sammy and Ian van Dahl. I suggest you give the girl a CD of _quality_ vocal trance to listen to, and if she doesn't like it then let her continue to listen to fruity crap that she calls 'techno'.


That's good and all, but you still haven't really answered my questions. So what if they "perpetuate the existence of cheese factories"? As long as music has been around, I'm sure there's been one elitist out there that said some of it was cheese. Did the cheese single-handedly bring about the downfall of the entire scene?

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KilldaDJ
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Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:
what a fucking idiot


a quote from college today.


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Greedy
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NoVA/DC
Re: " I hate trance but i like techno "

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
Ok so i had a conversation with a chick at my work.

Here it is :

"Well i know you like trance but i hate it." she says
"So why do you hate trance?" i asked
"Becouse theres no words in trance, but i like techno tho" she replies
" Uhm thats weird , you hate trance but you like techno?" i asked her
" Yeah at least in techno they sing and theres a couple of good rnb and rap songs with techno beats." she says
"?????????????????????" I started getting confused.
"Uhm sing in techno?" i asked her
" Yeah, i like Dj Sammy shez a good techno singer" she replies.

Ok that was the point when i gave up lol.

Well i live in Ohio, expecially in small town lol, so peoples have no clue about dance music


another EDM elitist.


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Noisician
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Registered: Aug 2001
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Re: uhm

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
it was tiesto- sparkles ( megikal remix) she said im listening to that robot music


eh? she called that "robot music"? rofl! wonder what she would say about this then


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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams
Re: Re: uhm

quote:
Originally posted by Noisician
eh? she called that "robot music"? rofl! wonder what she would say about this then




mmmm, nice, sounds industrial, who/what is that?


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Tranceporter99
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by BTG
do you people honestly expect everyone to know what actual techno is?


no, i know people who listen to PvD and Tiesto and Gabriel and Dresden, and they still call it techno, it pisses me off and i dont correct them becuase i dont want to look like a prude asshole


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caddyshack
gsmile



Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Lansing

quote:
Originally posted by Nalin
i think there's no point in trying to change peoples minds or prove anything to them - i think most of us try to at one point, but after a while you realize why bother, just why f*cking bother, what's it gonna change, nothing.


ROFLMFAO

i have also tried to introduce people to trance and failed again and again

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caddyshack
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Lansing

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
no, i know people who listen to PvD and Tiesto and Gabriel and Dresden, and they still call it techno, it pisses me off and i dont correct them becuase i dont want to look like a prude asshole


I call it techno too because if i say anything more specific they won't have a clue what i just said

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