why isnt nader on ur poll?

I'm voting 4 nader but if its really close I'll vote Kerry just to make sure bush gets the boot.

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Originally posted by igottaknow why isnt nader on ur poll? I'm voting 4 nader but if its really close I'll vote Kerry just to make sure bush gets the boot.

If I was an American I would be doing the exact same thing. I'm sick of the two party monopoly (It's basically the same down here, we have the ALP and the Liberals, and although two minor parties have some seats in one of the houses, they'll never have a shot at winning governance.

Either way, I like Nadar, and essentially agree with his policies, so it's logical to vote for him. By the way, is the green party intending to field a candidate, even with the loss of Nadar?

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Voting for independent is useless. No one from independent wins and you actually give up a vote for someone from a major party.

So much for democracy.

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Originally posted by arctic By the way, is the green party intending to field a candidate, even with the loss of Nadar?

Nadar said he wasn't running for the Green party because they nominate a canidate too close to the election to be able to get enuff votes to get on the ballet. I'm not sure if the Green party was "encouraged" by the Democrat party not to nominate Nadar or any canidate who would draw votes away or if they came to that conclusion by themselves. The 2 party system sucks.

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Originally posted by 3xx3r7 Voting for independent is useless. No one from independent wins and you actually give up a vote for someone from a major party. So much for democracy.

Um, which statement are you backing here?

Or are you trying to use the first as irony?

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As for myself, I'll be stuck here for another election, and I'm going to be voting for neither of the major choices, regardless.

People who say third parties only ,steal votes' seem to be saying that the two candidates have already ,earned' the right to everyone's vote, and I like neither the right of centre Democrats or the *really* right of centre Republicans.

I voted for Nader last time, and I probably will again unless Brown (Socialist Party, USA) gets on the local ballot, hell, I'll probably vote for Brown anyway.

What I wouldn't give to have a marginal, yet occasionally interesting leftist party in the US like the NDP in Canada.

I hate the pure moderate stance that both parties take in election talk.

Honestly though, I think it's all just a waste of time anyway. The elites continue to rule regardless of what party they want to claim as their own with elections giving people the illusion of being involved in a 'changing of the guard'.

That's an entire issue apart from this though

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Kerry all the way....... to many fuckwads will vote for bush just because being a republican gives them a sense of hey im better then you attitude ... when in fact bush is rapping there assholes and taking everything away from them. People can be idiots at times every time a bush comes in the office economy went down so americans dont let this happena gain and vote bush for another term or vote in another bush

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Originally posted by CortexBomb Um, which statement are you backing here? Or are you trying to use the first as irony? --- As for myself, I'll be stuck here for another election, and I'm going to be voting for neither of the major choices, regardless. People who say third parties only ,steal votes' seem to be saying that the two candidates have already ,earned' the right to everyone's vote, and I like neither the right of centre Democrats or the *really* right of centre Republicans. I voted for Nader last time, and I probably will again unless Brown (Socialist Party, USA) gets on the local ballot, hell, I'll probably vote for Brown anyway. What I wouldn't give to have a marginal, yet occasionally interesting leftist party in the US like the NDP in Canada. I hate the pure moderate stance that both parties take in election talk. Honestly though, I think it's all just a waste of time anyway. The elites continue to rule regardless of what party they want to claim as their own with elections giving people the illusion of being involved in a 'changing of the guard'. That's an entire issue apart from this though

Aren't the NDP mostly center rightists like the Dems?

Look at the charts here (although it only shows Paul Martin):

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

I think they are wrong about Joe Lieberman being more to the left than John Edwards though.

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Originally posted by DaveSZ Aren't the NDP mostly center rightists like the Dems? Look at the charts here (although it only shows Paul Martin): http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I think they are wrong about Joe Lieberman being more to the left than John Edwards though.

Paul Martin is the PM of Canada, and a member of the Liberal party, a mildly right of centre party that's a bit left of the US democratic party.

The NDP is noticeably left of centre, but aren't at the level of socialists.

They advocate:

- Finalization of the marijuana legalizatino drive.

- Large scale work on the homeless issue.

- Extremely progressive taxation

- More work with aborigines to give them better health care, resolve some more of those issues as fairly as possible.

- Publically funded care for children.

- General 'green' stance.

This is just some of the stuff, if you'd like they have a web site up since an election is upcoming, likely this year:

The NDP Party of Canada

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