Well so far the response here has been what I expected. Most in favour, a few afraid I'm rocking the boat.

Again, it is not my intention to shut down the Guv. I like the Guv and plan on attending the April 8th party. In fact the reason I'm doing this is because I DO enjoy the Guv, I just want to make sure the next time I go back isn't like the last. This is by no means a radical move. Clubs are warned about overcrowding all the time before any action takes place and hopefully a warning here will sink in to the Guv mamagement and make them think twice about how many people the let in the next time.

For the people who think I should leave this alone and put a night of dancing in front of the safey of other people I'm not even going to dignify that position with a response. It doesn't deserve one.

Hence why the tta tends to avoid these ultra spin events...too rammed. I value my safety....

I think the guv needs to stop letting in assclowns at 2-3am....that's why it gets too full and if you don't get there early enough, it's your fucking problem. I'm a firm believer in snooze you lose....clubs should take that approach.

I've noticed that people who purchase tickets for these big events in advance are really there for the music and the atmosphere not just to get high and stand near the big speakers like zombies. Now I'm not sure if this is being done already or not but they should only let in people with tickets until 2 or 3 and then if the capacity hasn't been reached they start letting in the non-ticket holders as well. I've noticed that the drunken ginos leave around 2-4 so this would kind of balance things out.

Whoever said the security checks at Boa are worse than at guv, you're full of shit!! Firstly, the security staff at Boa are a lot more friendlier so you don't mind being searched even though you may find it unpleasant and they definitely don't grab you as hard or stick their hands down your pants unlike at guv.

btw, room2dance... good luck with everything. I love the guv and it's still my favorite club in TO but they've gotta change before someone gets killed. Remember the drugged out dood walking the rafters in KH? Now that incident could have been a LOT worse.

On a side note, the thing that bothers me the most about the whole over-crowding thing is the sweat-rain... yyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkk!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by torontotrance ... till someone gets killed or seriously injured and if it can be prevented ...

thank you! that's exactly the point! does the shit have to hit the fan first before something is done?!?

if that is the case, then the club will be shut down for sure or some kind of crack-down will happen that most of us won't like!
and besides, it would just give those rave-haters more fuel on the fire to prove their point i.e. montreal, where there's been petitions going round the city to put an end to the afterhours scene!

*sigh* yea ...i admit, we're just some bad-ass, hard core, pill-poppin' party beasts & up to no good!

PLUR! hehehe!

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Last edited by disko-kandi on Mar-19-2004 at 23:00

sadly yes, and it could be me or you or our best friends and I've been leading the charge against overcrowding in clubs for a while now. I spoke to some city councellors...idiots..i figure. If it does happen, watch the regulations tighten so severly. Usually no one does anything till tragedy happens, i mean 2500 in a room where 2200 is the limit and say someone causes panic and ppl run and someone falls and gets trampled to death. People can dismiss this as idiocy but it's bound to happen, don't we want to make clubbing for everyone safer and more enjoyable?. I mean I don't know how I would cope if something happened and I knew I could do something for it. Charles K says he always follows guidelines (quote from an interview he did for the national post) and we know that's wrong. We don't want the guv to close, we just want it safer.

when the clubs stop bringin in the big names because of this or worse yet get shut down, we know whose fault it is

I for one, love the Guv because it attracts the best dj's in the world month after month. I hope if something is done with this overcrowdedness issue, that the Guv starts selling a set amount of tickets to events at various locations in the city. That way, the die hards and dj lovers can buy tickets early and enjoy seeing their favorite djs and have room to dance. Nothings worse than going to see a dj who comes here once a year and not being able to dance or have a good time because the Guv has let in over 1000 idiots into the club who have no idea who's dj'ing and are there only because it's an after hours club.
As far as the security at the door. I don't care to be felt up and touched all over by these macho bouncers and bouncettes like I have been in the past but I do feel ALOT safer at the Guv now than a few years ago when they didn't touch you all over and anyone could walk in with a weapon if they felt like it. I guess the Guv feel's weapons can kill people, but fire and 1000's rushing for exit's can't.

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Originally posted by sExY pErSiAn lol relax! he never said he wanted to try and shut down the club

Yeah - but this is what might happen as a result of his/her actions.

room2dance: You don't speak for me. I hope your seemingly "righteous" actions don't ruin Toronto's best spot for seeing the world's greatest DJs.

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Seems we're perpetually faced with those driven by the overwhelming desire to maintain the status quo... I just hope that doesn't deter the ones who push for changes. It's the latter group, not the former, that have made the scene as good as it is.

I'm usually one to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", but you'd have a hard time convincing me that the Guv ain't broke. Practically, I think there are probably strong forces at work keeping things the way they are, but it never hurts to try to break through. If the Guv got shut down, Charles would just start a new business anyway, I'm not too worried about losing our wonderful world-class DJs.

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2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

for the time being, i'll just stay out of the guv... keep up the good works. i really wish all sides reach a compromisable position.a win-win situation is not very common to achieve but if the powers to be became understanding, this issue will be resolved.

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Some of you people just don't get it.

1. I do not want to shut down ANY club.
2. A simple warning from the Fire Marshall will not deter big name DJ's from returning to Toronto.
3. Making a club conform to search and capacity regulations will not close it down or change who it books.

The fact that people are even posting in here saying that their own personal good time is more important than the safety of other people is perhaps the most selfish thing I've ever seen.