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Originally posted by xKaoSx It all comes down to the lesser of 2 evils. GW is an Idiot- I dont know if Kerry is much better but I think he would at least shift the focus back to fixing our fucked up country a tad more. GW has done so much BS - How much worse could Kerry do? not much.

You our spot on my friend.

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Originally posted by hooknife So the attitude is this, Bush sucks, you and I both know it, BUT its a known quantity so good or bad lets just keep him?! Its like I said in my above remarks....sounds kind of weird to me. Please don’t misunderstand me, its not that I think Kerry is some great guy that’s not going to do me or the world wrong I just see Kerry as the lesser of 2 evils. Bush has not done a very good job and maybe someone else will.

It's more like "Bush is not great, neither is Kerry, so why change?"

As I said before, Kerry has yet to say much of anything in terms of a platform or a means of carrying out his agenda. Thus far, almost his entire campaigning has been spent telling us he is against Bush and what he has done. He wouldn't be much of an opponent if he liked Bush, would he? Until he can prove to me that he is different from Bush and has concrete methods and rationale behind his platform (when he decides to let us in on it), I'm not paying much attention to Kerry.

Right now I see two equal evils, if you want to put it that way, and until Kerry makes me think otherwise, I'm going with the stability of an incumbent president, especially in times of such international strife. I will not vote for Kerry merely because he is not Bush and because "he couldn't do any worse."

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I'm going with the stability of an incumbent president, especially in times of such international strife.

I’m sorry to say but the reason we have this "strife" is largely due to Bush.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono It's more like "Bush is not great, neither is Kerry, so why change?" As I said before, Kerry has yet to say much of anything in terms of a platform or a means of carrying out his agenda. Thus far, almost his entire campaigning has been spent telling us he is against Bush and what he has done. He wouldn't be much of an opponent if he liked Bush, would he? Until he can prove to me that he is different from Bush and has concrete methods and rationale behind his platform (when he decides to let us in on it), I'm not paying much attention to Kerry. Right now I see two equal evils, if you want to put it that way, and until Kerry makes me think otherwise, I'm going with the stability of an incumbent president, especially in times of such international strife. I will not vote for Kerry merely because he is not Bush and because "he couldn't do any worse."

The difference is- Bush is happy with the way things are right now- He wont bother changing a thing. If Kerry comes in- could he REALLY do any worse than GW? I doubt it- All he could do is better. so let's recap

Bush - Un-motivated\Complacent
Kerry - Motivated

I really dont want four more years of the same bullshit-

Im just sick of seeing his stupid face actually-
Kerry's not exactly a handsome gentleman either but he
doesnt look like a monkey.

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Originally posted by hooknife I’m sorry to say but the reason we have this "strife" is largely due to Bush.

Well, as far as I know it's due to a terrorist group called al-Qaeda and their subsidiaries that decided to commit such crimes as flying airplanes into the World Trade Center...maybe I'm wrong though.

I just called a guy on an obvious mistake thats all.

Im not arguing about how the system is good or bad or if it should be changed or how poverty is wellbeing is included there. I never said anythinga bout how i the unemployment rate of US or Canada is good/bad, occrider. I dont CARE how many people are not included in the rate thanks to the technicalities.

If you check my first post, all I did is I just questioned his expertise in the field of economics by calling his rookie mistake, thats ALL.

...one day I'm going to have a seizure reading what you people here say

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Originally posted by NeoPhono It's more like "Bush is not great, neither is Kerry, so why change?" As I said before, Kerry has yet to say much of anything in terms of a platform or a means of carrying out his agenda. Thus far, almost his entire campaigning has been spent telling us he is against Bush and what he has done. He wouldn't be much of an opponent if he liked Bush, would he? Until he can prove to me that he is different from Bush and has concrete methods and rationale behind his platform (when he decides to let us in on it), I'm not paying much attention to Kerry.

Have you look at his stance on issues?:

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

I'm sorry but he has unveiled a number of ideas and future policies. Take a read and then let's discuss them specifically if you wish.

But merely saying Kerry hasn't said much of anything is pure Limbaugh rhetoric. Futhermore, he's still unveiling more specifics as he goes. It is only April 1st - quite a ways away from November. How long did it take Bush to create his specifics for his election run? I imagine it was on a similar timeline with Kerry's.

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Right now I see two equal evils, if you want to put it that way, and until Kerry makes me think otherwise, I'm going with the stability of an incumbent president, especially in times of such international strife. I will not vote for Kerry merely because he is not Bush and because "he couldn't do any worse."

I disagree with the stability issue, and I would also surmise given the evidence that much of the international strife can be attributed to Bush's foreign policies (or lack thereof prior to 9/11).

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Originally posted by Cal I just called a guy on an obvious mistake thats all. Im not arguing about how the system is good or bad or if it should be changed or how poverty is wellbeing is included there. I never said anythinga bout how i the unemployment rate of US or Canada is good/bad, occrider. I dont CARE how many people are not included in the rate thanks to the technicalities. If you check my first post, all I did is I just questioned his expertise in the field of economics by calling his rookie mistake, thats ALL. ...one day I'm going to have a seizure reading what you people here say

I'm not arguing with you man.
There are unemployed, but employable, people that are not looking for employment I was one of them. Collected unemployment for eight months in '94

Besides the comment I made about the unemployment rate vs. the scrubs noy looking for work was, admittedly, an exaggeration, a generalization, a hypothization

please accept my humble apology.

P.S. I'm a high school drop out. dumbest decision I ever made.

Would you stop apologizing?

Im not arguing with you either, because i simply dont care, dont you people understand what im trying to say here?

The whole issue is moot at this point anyway

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Originally posted by Cal Would you stop apologizing? Im not arguing with you either, because i simply dont care, dont you people understand what im trying to say here? The whole issue is moot at this point anyway

You said "moot"
he hehe heh heheeheh

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Geee-zuhs guys, wait for me next time eh? All this in one day?!

Kerry's main plan for creating more job opportunities is cutting ties off with countries that we get oil from and creating energy plants here in the U.S. Energy plants = people to build them + people to run them = more jobs + oil independence.

It's not technically the President's job to create more jobs for citizens... as someone else already stated, it's his role to create a more stable economy, thus bringing around more job opportunities.

And yes, the job market sucks right now. How do I know? Because I'm on my third job in three months. After finishing with my long term employment with one company, I sent out my resume and went for interviews to about 73 different companies (all ranging in distance from where I live). Once I finally got a job (almost three weeks later), I ended up losing it two days later because someone with more experience than me suddenly became available. Thus, starting another search which ended me up at my job 43 resume's, 9 interviews, and 3 weeks later.

My mother, who just finished her ultrasound sonography diagnostic technologist degree, has no hope for a job in Florida, because simply, there are none available. The job market around the country is the same. Simply, there are no jobs. Even in over crowded hosptials, they can't afford to staff another employee.

Various friends have been searching for jobs for months. I don't know if it's just this town/state that is cursed... but from my end, the job market blows.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Well, as far as I know it's due to a terrorist group called al-Qaeda and their subsidiaries that decided to commit such crimes as flying airplanes into the World Trade Center...maybe I'm wrong though.

That’s what GB wants you to think. I and most of the world that hates us does not like are policies, our reasons for going to war, our bully mentality and MOST of all GB. If you want to be GB’s little puppet then what can I say, you are welcome to be deceived.

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