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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
If you don't understand the language in a few posts, skip them Don't worry, they probably don't involve you

Furthermore, your threats are quite innocuous because you've already posted in a different language:

People speaking in Polish, including anuneventrade

Ohhhh the hypocrisy

Finally, I'll pull an uneventrade maneuver and post later about the actual topic at hand. Thank you that is all


Excuse me, I would like you to point out at which point I was hypocritical? I posted in Polish in a Polish thread. We don't have a Polish FORUM, so we have a thread. I was talking about a debate in a forum which is blatantly filled with individuals who speak in English. Considering I was posting in a thread specifically designed for Polish readers/speakers, I fail to see any hypocrisy. I am not posting in a debate in another language so certain people won't understand what I am typing, am I? Because that seems to be the trend between certain people lately.


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Old Post Apr-06-2004 23:33  Poland
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quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but where EXACTLY does it say that this forum is English ONLY


I can't remember where exactly, but a few years ago one of the mods said that it was an English only site.

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Ahhhhh...I see...so then if I make a THREAD in this forum and made sure to explicitly say

DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAN ENGLISH (French for instance): BEWARE

so that some people who can't speak english very well can participate in political debate, you woulnd't have an issue with it
And if you don't have an issue with that because you can then skip the thread, what then is the difference since you can actually skip the few posts that are in a different language but that aren't in a specifically non-english thread

Old Post Apr-06-2004 23:48  Lebanon
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Epicurus
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I can't remember where exactly, but a few years ago one of the mods said that it was an English only site.


Really Well, I don't remember when either but I talked to a mod who said that it wasn't

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quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
[font=comic sans ms]One more thing. If you don't stop posting in another language, I will be forced to cuss you all out in Polish.


I am eagerly awaiting this one! Sounds hilarious!

Old Post Apr-07-2004 00:13  United States
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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
Ahhhhh...I see...so then if I make a THREAD in this forum and made sure to explicitly say

DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAN ENGLISH (French for instance): BEWARE

so that some people who can't speak english very well can participate in political debate, you woulnd't have an issue with it
And if you don't have an issue with that because you can then skip the thread, what then is the difference since you can actually skip the few posts that are in a different language but that aren't in a specifically non-english thread


You've been posting in this forum for like what, two weeks? And you already think you're hot shit enough to dictate what language a specific thread should be in? I've got news for you. The person that made this website, SPEAKS ONLY ENGLISH. Sub-forums were CREATED for people who would like to speak another language out of CURTESY. NOTICE, how at least 90% of this website, is in ENGLISH.

This entire subforum was created for the purposes of debates. In speaking another language, you are forcing certain people to not participate in the debate and make yourself look arrogant. What's so important that you couldn't say in English?

Speaking in another language clearly knowing the fact that the majority of individuals who roam in the forum won't understand it, is pathetic. What, you want to show off your skills at speaking another language? Once again, NEWSFLAH- most of us can speak more than one language. However, it would defeat the purpose of a debate if no one could understand each other.

Stop trying to look like a badass, because it's not working. You're arrogant comments are percieved as just that, arrogant, if not also ignorant. Grow up a little. We aren't 12. "I can speak another language, na na na na na na!" So can I. Get over it.


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Old Post Apr-07-2004 01:26  Poland
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You've been posting in this forum for like what, two weeks?


I've been posting in this forum for nearly two months thank you very much

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Sub-forums were CREATED for people who would like to speak another language out of CURTESY.


Good, so can't a THREAD be created, out of COURTESY, for people who can't speak english very well. I'm not even asking for a sub-forum

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Speaking in another language clearly knowing the fact that the majority of individuals who roam in the forum won't understand it, is pathetic. What, you want to show off your skills at speaking another language? Once again, NEWSFLAH- most of us can speak more than one language.


I don't doubt the fact that many people can speak more than one language but it is YOU who misses the point These people are speaking in a different language BECAUSE they can't speak ENGLISH VERY WELL (See Bronze for instance)...they neither want to show off their skills nor care whether you think they're badasses or hot shit...they simply express their views in the language they best communicate in because their english is not that good and then hope that someone will understand them and answer them...THUS, I hardly think that's something to berrate them about...granted, I have used French in two or three posts to respond to Bronze's post in one thread, but believe me, that neither interrupted the flow of the debate nor took away from anyone's enjoyment from the discussion since we weren't discussing anything of any depth! Furthermore, I only used french as opposed to english for the sake of COURTESY (i.e. returning the favour), not to show off my language skills as you claim (completely erroneously may I add). But I promise you, if indeed the urge to show off my language skills does come, I will make sure to warn you before with CAPITAL LETTERS since you are obviously incapable of telling

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Stop trying to look like a badass, because it's not working. You're arrogant comments are percieved as just that, arrogant, if not also ignorant. Grow up a little. We aren't 12. "I can speak another language, na na na na na na!" So can I. Get over it.


I am neither trying to look like a badass nor anything else for that matter. If that's your perception of me, I really don't give a rat's ass, as your opinion is completety inconsequential to me I only responded to your thread initially because this is the second time (the Nellie thing was the first) you feel the need/urge to tell people how to act, what to do and what no to do, on grounds that, objectively, are simply not there. Finally, I assure you that there are enough posters here that feel my comments and contribution in general to this forum are anything BUT ignorant, so again, you can keep those specific opinions to yourself, or stuff them where the sun don't shine If that makes me 12 in your mind, then imagine how old that makes you in my mind. And if that makes me arrogant, then so be it. I wouldn't talk if I were you

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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
I've been posting in this forum for nearly two months thank you very much


Have a cookie.

quote:
Good, so can't a THREAD be created, out of COURTESY, for people who can't speak english very well. I'm not even asking for a sub-forum


Indeed,a thread CAN be created out of courtesy to other individuals that cannot speak English that well, but it would be wise to at least give a heads up that this person can't speak English. Tell me though, if their English isn't too great, how do they understand the thread?

quote:
I don't doubt the fact that many people can speak more than one language but it is YOU who misses the point These people are speaking in a different language BECAUSE they can't speak ENGLISH VERY WELL


Once again, but they can somehow understand an entire thread, but cannot respond a sentence in English?

quote:
(See Bronze for instance)...they neither want to show off their skills nor care whether you think they're badasses or hot shit...they simply express their views in the language they best communicate in because their english is not that good and then hope that someone will understand them and answer them...


Third time, but somehow even though their English is a failure, but they can understand the complexity of each thread in this forum?

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THUS, I hardly think that's something to berrate them about...granted, I have used French in two or three posts to respond to Bronze's post in one thread, but believe me, that neither interrupted the flow of the debate nor took away from anyone's enjoyment from the discussion since we weren't discussing anything of any depth!


Interesting, because I wasn't the only one to complain. Perhaps you should go back and read other posts.

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Furthermore, I only used french as opposed to english for the sake of COURTESY (i.e. returning the favour), not to show off my language skills as you claim (completely erroneously may I add). But I promise you, if indeed the urge to show off my language skills does come, I will make sure to warn you before with CAPITAL LETTERS since you are obviously incapable of telling


Actually no. Perhaps you cannot read a single word of what I said, or perhaps you are simply ignoring it. I was discussing the problem at hand having been that this general discussion is given in English, and if someone responds in another language, and no one is willing to translate, then all purposes of this debate have ultimately failed, because then it becomes a simple conversation between two people.

I'm not hounding on an individual for speaking in another language if they cannot speak in English, but like I said (this will be the fourth time now) I find it quite difficult to believe that someone can read the entirety of a thread and not be able to respond. I think you're underestimating his ability.

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I am neither trying to look like a badass nor anything else for that matter. If that's your perception of me, I really don't give a rat's ass, as your opinion is completety inconsequential to me


I love how you repeatedly respond to one sentence that I stated. Find something else to repeat.

quote:
I only responded to your thread initially because this is the second time (the Nellie thing was the first)


Actually, I don't think I ever told Nellie how to act or what to do. And if I did, Excuse me for my forgetfulness. Actually, take a look, I think many more people than just me disagreed with Nellie's statements. And in fact, I do believe I was debating with her on an actual subject, not telling her what to do. I think my extent may have been to not use the bible as a source. Once again, why don't you take a look at how many people debated against Nellie before you accuse me of trying to tell someone what to do.

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you feel the need/urge to tell people how to act, what to do and what no to do, on grounds that, objectively, are simply not there.


Actually, it is your fault you mistook my post. I merely said that it was unfair to people who did not understand the language for someone to be posting in a different language to a primarily English based debate. And if you think that's telling someone what to do, what are you doing in this forum? Are you going to tell me that telling someone to use legitimate sources is also a method of telling people how to act/what to do? This is how the forum works, get used to it.

quote:
Finally, I assure you that there are enough posters here that feel my comments and contribution in general to this forum are anything BUT ignorant,


I pointed out a specific post. Not your entire history of posting. Please read correctly next time.

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so again, you can keep those specific opinions to yourself, or stuff them where the sun don't shine


Read above comment.

quote:
If that makes me 12 in your mind, then imagine how old that makes you in my mind.


Once agian, you mistook my post, and I comment on your post which was commenting on mine. Perhaps you should realize, that not everyone is going to agree in a debate.

quote:
And if that makes me arrogant, then so be it. I wouldn't talk if I were you


Oh wait, you're telling me what to do!!!! Hypocrite!!!!


See how easy it is to misuse that word? Perhaps you should check the context of the statement you are commenting on before using words such as "hypocrite", because your usage of it was ridiculous and pointless.


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Old Post Apr-07-2004 02:41  Poland
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quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
I've been posting in this forum for nearly two months thank you very much


Hehehe you tell her

By the way or is it me but isn't this whole posting in other languages thing just such a non-topic? Who cares? If you can read it fine, if you can't....... you can't.


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squirrelly
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quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Hehehe you tell her

By the way or is it me but isn't this whole posting in other languages thing just such a non-topic? Who cares? If you can read it fine, if you can't....... you can't.


Actually, my first post, that started this whole argument, was made in a joking manner... hence my comment "I will be forced to cuss you all out in Polish". It really didn't bother me that much. *shrugs* Can't help it if people take things out of context. Ask anyone, I've never been one to back down from an argument.


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Originally posted by anuneventrade
I've never been one to back down from an argument. [/font]


And thats the way it should be! "Never back down, never surrender." How can people fully expore a point fully without arguing? Thats my way of thinking.


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And thats the way it should be! "Never back down, never surrender." How can people fully expore a point fully without arguing? Thats my way of thinking.



as long as that argueing is on topic and not directed at a personal level


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