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blazed it
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quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
305,000 new jobs


compared to almost 3 million lost jobs this is a chump change figure.


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Old Post Apr-12-2004 02:16  China
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Originally posted by Heinz
i hear soldiers and veteran's praising bush because under him, some of them have gotten up to 16% pay raises, including my father who works in the pentagon. i talk with this marine corps recruiter in my school (totally not joining marines, army, or navy...), complaining that if kerry comes into office, there pay checks be cut, there pensions, and that he wouldnt have the heart to finish the job in irak.

yet kerry says on MTV,

Interviewer: WHat will be the difference between your foreign policy and that of the Bush administration.

Kerry: Well, my policy will be the total opposite of this administration. This administration has driven our allies away from us; i will bring them back...................

so he says he'll improve relations with europe, and the world, and i believe him, but we went into irak for a reason which hasnt been fulfilled, and if they leave now, we would have wasted all that time and energy with that country, and they themselves would sink into islamic chaos, b/c islam is a religion stuck in the 7th century...


yes yes support our troops! so says bush! and then out he goes and cuts billions of dollars marked for veterans who have faithfully served the country. As you can see, Bush is a man of integrity. (wow that rhymed.)


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Old Post Apr-12-2004 02:23  China
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i think bush has done a great job, and hopefully if re-elected will continue it until 2008.

Old Post Apr-12-2004 02:59  Denmark
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
What is with Europe and its weird inferiority complex? I live in Canada and I feel no need to bash the USA and/or George Bush all the time.

How about instead of whining about USA politics, you take just a cursory look at your beloved European Union - perhaps you'll notice how it has "destabilized" the entire European continent in far more ways than Bush has "destabilized" the middle east.

Yeah, Bush isn't the greatest president ever. But honestly, let Americans handle that - you stick to your own problems.

I find it ironic how Europeans are so quick to accuse the USA of "meddling" in world affairs, and yet those same people have no reservations whatsoever when it comes to "meddling" in American politics. Tell me honestly, what is the difference? Is it just anti-Americanism taking the new form of anti-Bushism? The USA is a democracy, and people voted for Bush long before his "propaganda machine" ever existed.



Your post...I couldn't have said that better myself. As the years have gone by and things have become what they have I have learned to keep my mouth shut when it comes to politics. It's not worth getting into a debate with someone that doesn't even live here...or even with people that do for that matter. It's bound to be a heated conversation and the end result will have accomplished nothing. I didn't move to the US...I was born here and I am proud to be an American regardless of who is our president. Anyone that trys to argue with me about that needs to back off. Yes, we elect our president and government officials, but we have no control over what they do after they are in office. People need to spend more time focusing on what goes on in their own backyard. Unless we are literally at war with one another why create one on here?

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Registered: Feb 2001
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Re: Americans... what are your views on....

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Originally posted by Diehard_clubber
curious how according to the polls we hear about back here, about half the country still back him. Is his propaganda machine really that powerful over there?

He's got a well-funded propaganda machine, but even without it the country would be evenly split. People basically vote for their party's candidate regardless of his performance and record. The undecided independent voter in a few crucial states will determine the election’s outcome. Since most support Bush because of his "Christian" values the rest of the other stuff doesn't matter to them so long as he's anti-abortion, anti-gay right, anti-drugs,...


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dun like bush


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Izzy
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bush is
although i disagree with most of his social/religous policies, for the most part i agree on the more important issues such as economy and foriegn affairs.


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Orbax
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Oh yeah. I also payed over 250 thousand dollars in taxes a few years ago. Ill vote for anyone with some dang tax cuts.

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NeoPhono
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quote:
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Oh yeah. I also payed over 250 thousand dollars in taxes a few years ago. Ill vote for anyone with some dang tax cuts.


$250,000 dollars in taxes!? Share the wealth!!!

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I do. to the tune of 250 frigging grand a year.

Old Post Apr-12-2004 04:40  United States
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I do. to the tune of 250 frigging grand a year.


What...if you don't mind me asking, do you do for a living?

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Orbax
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Its my father actually. I was using the royal "I" hehe. started some high tech consulting firms and sold them and stuff. Lots of free lance turn-around CEOing thrown in. Also comes down to being smart with Real Estate and ish. Used to be an IBM bigwig till they asked him to do something he thought was wrong. Pretty well known in the area.

Ahhh! Do you know what you could DOOOOO with 250 grand?!?! ayieee.

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