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Originally posted by BitchBoyNYC Trust me, It isn't easy. But that's what makes the whole situation even more gratifying, that I'm able to make it on my own.

Dude, U rock.

I forgive you for listening to PvD.

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Originally posted by galdamez Dude, U rock. I forgive you for listening to PvD.

Respect, he raised issues that no-one else had even thought about,

could never forgive anyone for the 'P word' though

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Originally posted by galdamez Dude, U rock. I forgive you for listening to PvD.

LOL! Thanks man!

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um, i was raised Catholic, but who gives a flying fork what the Catholic Church has to say??? they can be against abortion, but for covering up thousands of priests molesting children? uh, makes a lot of sense, doesn't it???

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Originally posted by steven neil Respect, he raised issues that no-one else had even thought about, could never forgive anyone for the 'P word' though

Sorry to disappoint about PVD Steven, but thanks for the respect buddy.

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sanman201
when you are taking care of your kids child because they can't, tell me how it feels.

Shit happends sometimes, o well. If it doesnt affect you then, the hell do you care?

imo there are lots of people that shouldnt even be allowed to be parents. But whatever, im not gonna be against them having children.


your born/live/and you die...whatever

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 flying fork

I've never seen a fork fly, but then again I've lived in Maryland all my life.

A pointless debate.....Let's see if a hardcore prolifers our age want to raise a child when they are still trying ti find themselves....talk is cheap, you never know what might happen. How many people have ever gotten an abortion known someone who has, taken someone and picked someone up from one, took care of someone after one, has been pregnant or is raisign a baby here???? If you have then you can talk about it. otherwise imo the debate is pointless b/c what you say anit gonna matter unless you're in the above category. my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 um, i was raised Catholic, but who gives a flying fork what the Catholic Church has to say??? they can be against abortion, but for covering up thousands of priests molesting children? uh, makes a lot of sense, doesn't it???

if you are raised catholic, thats coo. But if you dont believe in the core values of catholicsm, and still call urself a catholic, thats not cool. There are bad apples in the catholic church, but we all know that it is not fair for the church to get that kinda slam for sins done by others.

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Originally posted by Busy Child There are bad apples in the catholic church, but we all know that it is not fair for the church to get that kinda slam for sins done by others.

So what if those bad apples continue straight up to the top of the church diocese?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/08/07/va...ment/index.html

This is just the sex abuse scandals .... I could continue on and on with quite a few papal scandals in the past 2 centuries alone.

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Originally posted by occrider This is just the sex abuse scandals .... I could continue on and on with quite a few papal scandals in the past 2 centuries alone.

Bill Clinton got a blowjob from an intern.

I guess that means all Americans are guilty of getting blowjobs from interns?

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Originally posted by galdamez Bill Clinton got a blowjob from an intern. I guess that means all Americans are guilty of getting blowjobs from interns?

Your analogy would work if I had said "since the church is guilty of wrong-doings than all catholics are guilty of wrong-doings", but looking over my post I can't seem to find that statement. But it is fair to criticize the church as an institution because the institution itself is guilty of wrongdoings. If we are to use your argument than we cannot say that the Bush administration is crooked, since there are likely only a few "bad seeds" particularly Bush, Cheney, etc., as opposed to everyone in the administration as a whole. So is that a valid argument?

By the way, perhaps instead of papal scandals I should have expanded that statement to include the council of bishops who codify church doctrine, law, and political decisions.

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