Both ahcid and E share a lot of similar historic roots. Cid was invented by Albert Hoffman in 1943 but just sort of sat around for several years til the government/psychiatric community started using it to treat chronic alcoholics in the early 60's. Ken Kesey(author of one flew over the koo-koos (sp?) nest got a job for $75 a week acting as a human guinea pig having doctors give him clinical grade Cid. He immediately realized the enormous trip potential and surrepticiously smuggled some out(it was still legal then)Among the first people to use it recreationally were members of the GR8ful dead and the artistic community in San Francisco as a whole. Needless to say it soon filtered into music/dance halls and was largely responsible for shaping psychedelic music and poster art in the mid 60's. I think it was made illegal in January of 65 or 66.

Mdma on the other hand was sitting on a shelf somewhere since 1912 or so, it only made it's first public appearance as a therapeutic tool when Alexander/Sasha Shulgin recreated it in the early to mid 80's. Once again like Cid, it proved to be a GR8 aid in therapy, especially amongst dysfuntional couples having marital problems due mainly to it's ability to open people up and get them to communicate as well as establish a deeper intimacy.....like Cid someone somewhere realized the party potential and it hit the street an of course heaven forbid that anyone should have a good time it was soon illegal as well...

I guess the gist of all this is that I really don't see that much difference between the scene people my age(49) had in the L8 60's/early to mid 70's being all that much different from the one you guys/girls have today.Sure the outer form may have taken a copernican shift but today's DJ's serve the same function as the music bands did way back when. And like the old days apparently from what I've read here in TA some of you like to dance an some of you like to stand and watch, we had the same dichotomous audience at shows like the Gr8ful dead....you'd see a bunch of people on the main floor dancing, seemingly oblivious to the band on stage while some of us were content to sit/stand and watch the band perform, anyways it's all good as far as I'm concerned