Originally posted by Jayx1
The weakest arguement anyone can ever have is "if you dont like it then leave"
Meanwhile we bitch and complain about it because we love our country/province but we dont like what is happening to it (big difference here)
To tell people to leave because they dont like a particular style of government, some particular laws etc is truely pathetic. Why should people who want change for the better be told to leave?
As for sweden: last i heard the health care system was bankrupt and they were turning to public/private systems. And no this doesnt mean 2 tier either like the scare mongers like to say.
And although Mcsquinty is just as bad or worse than bob rae.... ILL NEVER MISS THE NDP!
see my friend, in north america, politicians will ALWAYS lie, the people will ALWAYS get screwed over.
it shouldn't take that long for an educated person like urself to realize that. Execuse me if i'm pathetic or uneducated but this is truly how i view the whole political issues.
Personally all i care about is a roof over my head, food on my table and clothes to cover my back. Enjoying that in a country that is not suffering from a war defecit or always on alert for terorist attacks is an added bonus.
some of us should feel really lucky to live in a place like Canada. lotta ppl envy us. We're just too spoiled to see it. Government sucks cuz ppl don't do anything about it. Ok it's a fact we all know and we'll always remain passive since most of us are immigrants and all we care about is this country to remain safe. It's the only reason my family is here. Otherwise i rather enjoy living in my 6 bedrom villa facing the Red Sea back home and i'll have summer all year round.
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by Rocco
i know. my friends and family are here. There are always compromises that has to be made.
live a shitty life with good ppl or live a good life with shitty ppl.
this is how i see it.
Yeah but I do think our government needs at least something in the way of revisionment; when you look at it the majority of Canada votes for a party that didn't win. Is it really a good system if 72% of the people are not satisfied? Obviously not everyone is gonna end up happy; you can't please all the people all the time. Perhaps an N-round system (where n is the number of "rounds" of elections; weaker parties are eliminated each round so you eventually get a true majority vote) or Approval Voting... ah well I'm hardly a student of politics....
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May-18-2004 01:52
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
We are spoiled. The effect is opposite though. We sit back and let people walk all over us because we have become detached from the world around us. Sadly, we are letting our country slip away little by little and most of us wont realize until its too late.
Remember that 60 years ago, countries like the Ukraine, Afghanistan and Argentina were some of the richest countries in the world. Now think how corruption here is becoming more and more frequent and how many of our civil rights are being taking away.
May-18-2004 01:53
Rocco
PierreM
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
We are spoiled. The effect is opposite though. We sit back and let people walk all over us because we have become detached from the world around us. Sadly, we are letting our country slip away little by little and most of us wont realize until its too late.
Remember that 60 years ago, countries like the Ukraine, Afghanistan and Argentina were some of the richest countries in the world. Now think how corruption here is becoming more and more frequent and how many of our civil rights are being taking away.
lol
just remember, when i turn 40 and i have to fight with u in a civil war, we'll see who says "i told u so"
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by Rocco
lol
just remember, when i turn 40 and i have to fight with u in a civil war, we'll see who says "i told u so"
If that war happens we should build a battle-bus like in Dawn of the Dead <3
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May-18-2004 01:56
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
and Quebec will start it!
LOL
Seriously though... take a lesson in politics and have a look around you. The classic signs of decline are very evident in Canada.
May-18-2004 01:57
Nephilim_X
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
and Quebec will start it!
LOL
Seriously though... take a lesson in politics and have a look around you. The classic signs of decline are very evident in Canada.
Yeah but every nation goes through birth and decay; in a sense the end is inevitable. Perhaps through strife and challenge the new nation(s) born of Canada's fall could become better? Some might say "look what happened when Rome fell" but Canada is hardly the world superpower; plus secularism has a pretty firm grasp on this region of the world.
The Bible Belt on the other hand... *shudder*
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May-18-2004 02:00
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
i for one wont let the decay happen without a fight. Im sick of politicians like mcguinty. Just wait until the budget comes down tomorrow. I swear, somebody with balls like maybe the opposition leader or some of the union leaders need to start calling for general strikes to oppose this lying,law breaking premier.
May-18-2004 02:04
disko-kandi
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Bavaria
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Originally posted by Brindor
Can't we just vote something like an ape into office? atleast the shit they fling around would be amusing
we already got that 'situation' in the US!
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May-18-2004 02:05
Nephilim_X
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by disko-kandi
we already got that 'situation' in the US!
Hail to the Chimp!
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May-18-2004 02:06
Brindor
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
That what you get for not hailing to the Chimp!
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May-18-2004 02:09
Nephilim_X
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Brindor
*snip image*
That what you get for not hailing to the Chimp!
Hehe reminds me of one of my favorite forum pics...
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