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Originally posted by lethal Shame on you for dissing the A380!!! It will fly and it will be a great aircrfat though the fact of the matter is, it will NEVER fit more then 650-odd people on it! One of my friends works for QANTAS and her jobs been trying to determine the optimum seat layout for QANTAS's A380's for the last few months and they wont have more then about 600 on them. Airbus's quote of "up to 850 seats" was based on floor area but because of the cylindrical shape of the fuselage, you cant use the majority of the area on the top floor (unless your about a 4 ft midget or you dont mind lying down for the entire trip! ). Good ol airbus - apprently dodgy as fuck in this respect but you cant beat the price!!

No aircraft configured in the manner that US carriers, and it appears Qantas as well configure their planes could fit the stated capacity. Those figures are for 1 class economy seating throughout the aircraft. Hell in a one class configuration, a 747-400 can hold on the order of 600 passengers while United and Qantas fly them at a little over half that. Some Europena airlines will configure their planes in the "cattle car" fashion, I know that Lufthansa flys A340s with as many people crammed into them as possible.

Call me biased (because I am) but I do not think the A380 will have as great an impact as the 747 did.

Of course, it will probably have a bigger impact on you in Australia than me being in the US because of it's ability to carry more passengers, and passenger capacty is what matters when you are as far away from the desired destinations as Australia is.

The 777 is my favorite plane to fly on. It holds a ton of passengers (over 300 in a 3 class config) and the coach seats are nice and wide and there is decent leg room. Hell, the 777 is alamost as tall (1m shorter) and has a larger wingspan that a 747 (the wingtips actually fold for taxi-ing so it can fit itn the same footprint as a 747-400).

I am rambling.....but one must note this when talking about Airbus and how everyone flys them in Europe. Airbus is partially owned by the governments of France, Germany, Italy, and the UK so they are basically a subsidised aircraft manufacturer. I am sure there is also pressure on airlines to buy them by their governments as well. It is difficult for a privately funded company like boeing (especially under the poor management they have had in recent years) to compete on such an uneven playing field.

MrS

EDIT: Sorry, I meant Spain, not Italy....the Italians are in on a different aerospace conglomerate for military aircraft.

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Last edited by MrSquirrel on Jun-16-2004 at 02:16

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Originally posted by Beemer hahaha true....just saying i've noticed it to be ESPECIALLY true of pilots - they're amongst the worst e.g. the day i was born, my father's workmates actually had to force him to go to the hospital - he woulda been happier to stay at work and fly!!

yeah if i had a daughter like you that attended raves and did drugs, i'd wanna be at work everyday flying as far away as i can!!

haha oops did i say that out loud. ok ok, that was harsh and uncalled for. SORRYYYYYYYYYY it just screamed a smart arse remark.. may god strike down upon me!

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was nice knowing ya rez, START RUNNING!!!

haha yeah it was pretty harsh... the guilt has started to take me over...

but at least i didnt resort to the childish behaviour of many, i left her personal assetts (avatar) out of joke. or was that a joke within itself.. hmmmmmm

Last edited by rez on Jun-16-2004 at 02:35

haha if i worried bout personal comments on a net board, i woulda left TA a while ago.....but, i'm one of these enlightened ppl who can give and take shit on the net cos i don't equate it to normal life away from the net

besides, i was the one who flew away from that particular parental unit - not the other way round

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sif ever fly away...
no board, no cooking, no washing, no cleaning
i love my parents. hoho

maybe i could live with you beemer, im house trained. honest

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Originally posted by r e z sif ever fly away... no board, no cooking, no washing, no cleaning i love my parents. hoho maybe i could live with you beemer, im house trained. honest

i said i flew away from THAT parental unit...as in one of them - not both my mum rocks....hence why i moved back home to her brand new house a year ago to save for my europe trip....hehehe and judging from ur interactions with other ppl's mothers that have been alluded to on this forum, i'm keepin u well away from mine....hence, no u may not move in with me

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dude i was the one advocating the protection of our dear mothers...
i am just misunderstood, but then again...
while your in europe.. who wil be protecting your home??

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Originally posted by r e z dude i was the one advocating the protection of our dear mothers... i am just misunderstood, but then again... while your in europe.. who wil be protecting your home??

my 55kg rottweiler....

still wanna move in??

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sure

hehehe okay...truth be told she's the biggest baby, and such a sook....meaning that at night ur gonna have to take over my role - that is, sleep on about 10cm of my queen size bed, with an inch of doona, while the dog owns the rest of the bed and doona, and refuses to move her big fat butt unless u get outta bed, go the kitchen, get a biscuit and put it on the part of the bed u want her to move to *lol*

awwwww gonna miss my doggies

think we've hijacked this thread enuff!!

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