/ignore Cistane lol. The guys an idiot, dont bother dude.

Last edited by Orbax on Jun-23-2004 at 18:18

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Originally posted by Orbax /ignore Cistane lol. The guys an idiot, dont other dude.

bother even...lol

point taken.

Mizz

you could tell from his extremist "military is evil" attitude that he was gonna be way off one some random deep end defending his little island of ignorance and accepting no new thoughts.

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Originally posted by Vigilante hahaha we did this exact same thing in philosophy last year.

Our philosophy teacher never used to let us teleport atoms

teleport me pls..

if my body wont get reconstructed on the other side, it's alright..il be a mutant! right?

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by mizzuno The more you post the more you show just how little you know. Firstly, your misquoted the article, which is the first sign of someone who has no idea how to interpret information. Heres the exact quote: Note: "In addition to James..." for whom does James work? Answer: Los Alamos...what is Los Alamos primary task? Answer: Nuclear Arms Stewardship.... So far you're on shaky ground, you totally left out the main person that being Daniel James, who works for Los Alamos. Theres a fact. More reasons why you are cluless: 1. The original research into the quantum world was during the Manhattan Project....I would hope you know what that is, it was said to be a "ghostly" world by Einstein, who also worked for Los Alamos to develop the atomic bomb. One can surmise that if the atomic bomb was never researched that we would never have done the basic science necessary to begin to understand the underpinnings of the physical world. 2. This research is inexorably tied to research into quantum crytography, and the ability to crack all known encryption systems by utlizing the novel properties electrons (ie. supposition) aka qubits. This could also yield the ability to create a communications system that cannot be eavesdropped upon without the knowledge of the sender and receiver. 3. Last i looked the "evil" military is also the same military that is dedicated to protecting your sorry ass. I will give you credit, you did a great job looking up the definition of evil, now you just have to learn something about research and technology. Mizzuno

Tis the truth. My work in Quantum Computing (for which we just won an award ) was funded by none other than DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). We have to brief them pretty often, too. Just to make sure we're ahead of the pack .

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Originally posted by Flyboy217 My work in Quantum Computing

holy crap, i am a good writer. a guy who works in quantum computing appreciates it. i am humbled

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Oh I know what this is about...This is about yet another blind, sheep-like person being offended because I said the military does evil things. You refuse to see the truth because youre blinded by patriotism...They protect my sorry ass? right, more like they protect the country that my ass just happens to be in. You're fooled, you think the US military is so great...They could care less about you, youre just another worthless civilian to them. When they "protect" you...all they are doing is protecting the glory of the US.

And on the extremist point, no I am not an extremist...I'm more of a realist. I see the world for what it is, not what propaganda or the masses say it is. Seems like you guys are the ones not excepting new thoughts.

OH and one more thing, you misinterpreted the article...

"In addition to James, other INVESTIGATORS on the project..."
He is an investigator...he is not someone who is funding it nor someone who began the research. The people of Los Alamos only got involved after the progress in quantum teleportation.

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I then looked into my heart and it was there where He dwelled that i saw him;he was no where else to be found."

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Originally posted by cistane Oh I know what this is about...This is about yet another blind, sheep-like person being offended because I said the military does evil things. You refuse to see the truth because youre blinded by patriotism...They protect my sorry ass? right, more like they protect the country that my ass just happens to be in. You're fooled, you think the US military is so great...They could care less about you, youre just another worthless civilian to them. When they "protect" you...all they are doing is protecting the glory of the US. And on the extremist point, no I am not an extremist...I'm more of a realist. I see the world for what it is, not what propaganda or the masses say it is. Seems like you guys are the ones not excepting new thoughts. OH and one more thing, you misinterpreted the article... "In addition to James, other INVESTIGATORS on the project..." He is an investigator...he is not someone who is funding it nor someone who began the research. The people of Los Alamos only got involved after the progress in quantum teleportation.

First of all, it's accepting new thoughts not "excepting" new thoughts. Second of all, your logical reasoning to assume that since the article termed Daniel James as the primary investigator of the technology than he is not someone who began the research is flawed. The article refers to ALL the principals as investigators. Therefore if Daniel James is not the person who started the research, and Mark Riebe is not the person who started the research, nor Hartmut Häffner, nor Christian Roos, nor Wolfgang Hänsel, nor Jan Benhelm, nor Gavin Lancaster, nor Timo Körber, nor Christoph Becher, nor Ferdinand Schmidt-Kaler, nor Rainer Blatt ... well now you're just out of people. It's quite funny that credit was given to every "investigator" of this technological breakthrough except for your mystery researcher! Lastly, if you weren't speaking out of your ass, perhaps you would have noticed that one of the funders of the project was the Laboratory Directed Research and Development program which is a Los Alamos program. On one final note, you're hardly a realist if you can't grasp the simple concept that this technological breakthrough was funded and researched by the military.

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Of course it is going to be researched and funded by the military. My point is they are not the primary researchers or funders for this discovery.

One other thing, let's not make this a debate where we're attacking each other by demeaning the other person. Let's keep it professional.

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I questioned the scholars and philosophers but He was beyond thair understanding.
I then looked into my heart and it was there where He dwelled that i saw him;he was no where else to be found."

--Jelaluddin Rumi

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Originally posted by Lephaid It'd be interesting if everything in the world were only two minutes away...

more like instantly away

but distance is a factor as well

they did this expierement over a VERY short distance

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Originally posted by cistane Of course it is going to be researched and funded by the military. My point is they are not the primary researchers or funders for this discovery. One other thing, let's not make this a debate where we're attacking each other by demeaning the other person. Let's keep it professional.

Ok agreed no attacks, but maybe you should so a little reading on that institue in austria, it also has a military arm, so hopefully you can put 2 + 2 together. Also, this is the first time an atom has been teleported, before that it was an electron. All of these projects are innately military because as i said the first use of a quantum computer will be to break codes, if its not already being used. This technology is no where near ready for consmer products, although the research will affect future consumer goods, because anytime basic science is advanced it benefits all people. As for the evil military reference, it seems that you are brainwashed. I never said the military is the most upstanding entity, but its composed of regular people who just so happen to be cut from the same fabric as those who fought in WW2, I'm sure you will now come up with a way to disparage the military from WW2 as well. As for me being blinded by patriotism, this has nothing to do with patriotism and all to do with staying ahead in the science world, for which the military has played an overwhelming part. I'm still waiting for facts from you regarding inventions that the military has had a part in or rather from your perspective, has not had a part in...well heres my fact:

If you have ever used a microwave, it was originally introduced by Amana, which used to be the consumer arm of raytheon, they called it a Radar Range, Two guesses why that would be.....(hint High power radio waves....one more hint, look up the definition of radar, its actually an acronym..)

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