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Ortemy
torontovka.com addict



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto

Ilya, just tell me, when the hell will I have an email ortemy at google dot com ????? ; ))))


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StereoPrincess
sassy one-piece



Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by abort416
i have read
http://news.com.com/Hotmail+giving+...ml?tag=nefd.top that hotmail and other major email providers such as yahoo and lycos are blocking google gmail invites so if you want to get invited by someone
DONT HAVE THE INVITE SENT TO A HOTMAIL ACCOUNT AS IT WILL BE A WASTE
which reminds me i need to set up an account with rogers email so that hopefully one of my friendly (network) neighbourhood tranceaddicts with a gmail invite might invite me to get an address! PLEASE! (right now i solely use my hotmail account and im sick of it!)


i got one through hotmail, no probs.

Old Post Jun-24-2004 17:42  Poland
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DigDeep
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i got one through hotmail, no probs.


Me too.


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AwakenedAddict
Transplanted



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Berkeley, California

Haha, i scored "[email protected]" yesterday
If anyone needs an invite i just got a fresh account, so i should have some (i need to check it out first). Anyhow first "x" to PM me can have my invites (x= # of invites i have)

-+Aron


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TheDanLevy
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

well then i guess i stand corrected! send all the gmail invites ya want to hotmail addys i guess
pmed you AwakenedAddict hope i was quick enough!


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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

To Steve and Iliya:

I assure you that after having worked in the IT business for five years that I know exactly how SMTP works.

SMTP servers route millions of messages every second of the day, half of them spam. Sure, an administrator could pick out a random message and read it, but who would want to? ISPs with thousands of users aren't like school networks where only a handful of messages pass through. And even if they did pick out random messages to read, the chance of one of them being mine is pretty low.

Okay, so technically if an administrator knew who I was and wanted to scan my *incoming* e-mail. He could set up a bot on the server to scan every single mail going through the SMTP for my address. Getting a little far-fetched here, but maybe it's possible. What then is he going to do with it, other than read the pathetic details of my insignificant life? Sign me up for spam? Write threatening letters to me?

Gmail, on the other hand, is set up expressly to enable scanning your e-mail for profiling purposes. Both your outgoing and incoming e-mail are linked and scanned by google's all-purpose bot that's already had years of experience in the profiling and marketing department. We're not talking about a lone admin having some fun reading private e-mail, we're talking about an entire distributed artificial intelligence network dedicated solely to the task of reading your private e-mail. There's a slight difference here.

What, did you think Google just felt like offering a ton of free high-quality e-mail? They have to make money off of this somehow, and believe me, they'll be making a ton. Google doesn't play games here.

As for that article on google-watch-watch, it was mainly an ad-hominem attack on the person who did google-watch. While nothing I've posted in this thread actually comes from or was inspired by google-watch, I still have to wonder exactly how that diatribe disproves anything on GW. I'm going to go with the "it doesn't" answer.


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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

quote:
Gmail, on the other hand, is set up expressly to enable scanning your e-mail for profiling purposes.


Please support this statement with a proof, specifically "profiling purposes".

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LKD
Omni-peasant



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Its June 18th, 2005, I'm at the Skybar

i got an invite from someone recently..not sure if hes a TA....anyways...spent a whole weekend or more trying ot think of what prefix to get...dinally i just stuck to...well u guessed it...elkaydee


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redrum
tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Buffalo

just got gmail a few weeks ago... very nice

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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
To Steve and Iliya:

I assure you that after having worked in the IT business for five years that I know exactly how SMTP works.

SMTP servers route millions of messages every second of the day, half of them spam. Sure, an administrator could pick out a random message and read it, but who would want to? ISPs with thousands of users aren't like school networks where only a handful of messages pass through. And even if they did pick out random messages to read, the chance of one of them being mine is pretty low.

Okay, so technically if an administrator knew who I was and wanted to scan my *incoming* e-mail. He could set up a bot on the server to scan every single mail going through the SMTP for my address. Getting a little far-fetched here, but maybe it's possible. What then is he going to do with it, other than read the pathetic details of my insignificant life? Sign me up for spam? Write threatening letters to me?

Gmail, on the other hand, is set up expressly to enable scanning your e-mail for profiling purposes. Both your outgoing and incoming e-mail are linked and scanned by google's all-purpose bot that's already had years of experience in the profiling and marketing department. We're not talking about a lone admin having some fun reading private e-mail, we're talking about an entire distributed artificial intelligence network dedicated solely to the task of reading your private e-mail. There's a slight difference here.

What, did you think Google just felt like offering a ton of free high-quality e-mail? They have to make money off of this somehow, and believe me, they'll be making a ton. Google doesn't play games here.

As for that article on google-watch-watch, it was mainly an ad-hominem attack on the person who did google-watch. While nothing I've posted in this thread actually comes from or was inspired by google-watch, I still have to wonder exactly how that diatribe disproves anything on GW. I'm going to go with the "it doesn't" answer.


its people like you that I am affraid from...

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failsafe
dirty numb angel boy



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: YYZ (finally)

well if any of you run out of gmail invite people you can fire me an invite! pilot_graeme_brown(at)hotmail.com

please please please?!

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TrueToTheCrew
Officially Done



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
you must encrypt all your messages.


Get a BlackBerry

www.blackberry.com


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