Are there brand new electronica releases readily on CD?

No.

Pure CD DJing =

It sounds absurd really.. Where's the magic in mixing? Anyone can put together a compilation of mp3s and just sit back.

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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN Are there brand new electronica releases readily on CD? No.

yes...maybe you haven't noticed but a lot of popular labels are moving that direction...ajuna beats, lost language stuff is usually available on cd BEFORE vinyl now...

AH!

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yep, i doubt it will fully take over though.

There's no many releases on CD yet :-(

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For DJ’ing purposes, simply put, vinyl will never die. There is just too big a fan base for it. There will always be a hard core contingent of electronica enthusiasts who will refuse to use anything else.

And, in any case, the ‘death of vinyl’ will do nothing but push up the price of all our old classics on vinyl. Someone mentioned The Beatles earlier in the thread. 12 inches of Beatles releases are worth a fantastic amount despite them being release on CD. The same will happen with our tunes.

This entire ‘death of vinyl’ blurb is just rubbish. Reform for reform’s sake is not progress. Sasha, PVD et all who have gone 100% digital can kiss my arse!

mp3 won't replace shit when it comes to the DJ because they sound like shit.
but i agree with xanax in that media will be carried by smaller and smaller means.
with new Pioneer DVD-DJ you can fit 4.6GB (I think thats the DVD size) onto a DVD. that is alot of music.
or you could bring your laptop and plug that in and use ableton live or something. small hard drives can hold alot of information. im sure theres other formats out there that are lossless that will take up less memory for a song.
i also bet alot of online stores will start offering .wavs for download. with broadband now it takes just as long to download the .wav as it does on dialup to download the .mp3

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Originally posted by montie mp3 won't replace shit when it comes to the DJ because they sound like shit. but i agree with xanax in that media will be carried by smaller and smaller means. with new Pioneer DVD-DJ you can fit 4.6GB (I think thats the DVD size) onto a DVD. that is alot of music. or you could bring your laptop and plug that in and use ableton live or something. small hard drives can hold alot of information. im sure theres other formats out there that are lossless that will take up less memory for a song. i also bet alot of online stores will start offering .wavs for download. with broadband now it takes just as long to download the .wav as it does on dialup to download the .mp3

i don't think people really comprehended the problems that mp3s will cause the industry (if they ever become popular)...this is what i think...

1. dling legal mp3s only intensifies the illegal dling of mp3s

2. record companies will become useless as individual artists can easily make tracks and make them for payable dl via their artist sites.

3. online distributors like chemical records, juno, etc...are also useless for #2 as well as the record labels that artists are on will start to do it themselves.

and i could make up a few more, but you get the idea hehehe...or maybe i'm being unrealistic?

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Originally posted by Floorfiller lots of interesting stuff being brought up...thanks for the good discussion i can completely see the argument in terms of the use of laptops etc becoming dominant. Cobalt or someone mentioned that older vinyl will not be re-released as cd's, but when you think of the mp3's out there...its very possible that anything ever released could be made available to everyone through downloading. i mean why not? its of practically no cost to the record companies and if an older track is dl'd even 10,000 times...they're gonna be making money on a tune that they otherwise wouldn't have.

Hmm. Good point. Assuming that the .wavs are original recordings or from perfect record rips, though.

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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN Are there brand new electronica releases readily on CD? No.

your talking shit:
new CD single/maxis are readily availble to the UK people , never had a problem with the cd/cdr promo services either from no less than 14 top UK labels alone. it's your american music market that doesn't get the cds- UK and Holland have them by the bucket load. The only thing which you rarely get on cd are bootlegs. plenty of imports availble to. i'll copy paste some extracts of points i made on another board...

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........you can buy cd singles/maxis or download the digital stuff and burn them to a cd. cds are cheaper as well and aren't self delipidating like vinyl is. If you ever do become mobile, they are also lighter, easy to store and carry, plus you get all the extra features that a cddj carries (I.e. the pioneer and technics models) ........all the DJ's bring a cd wallet these days.... ben lost says he only uses cd nothing else. tiesto says in 5 years you wont see vinyl at all, just digital forms- cds, final scratch etc. imo, i'm ahead of the game now. take a look at our own front door step here, anjunadigital offering downloads that will never be availible on vinyl or in advance of the vinyl release! speaks for itself. ....it's (vinyl) just recorded/mastered on a higher frequency if im not mistaken. CD's CAN (but dont atm) hold much higher quality music than a vinyl can, CD audio quality is the standard. Maybe super audio cds may become popular one day. ...also look forward to DVD-AUDIO. ...look at the likes of anjunabeats, the G&D dub of No-one earth is in masssive demand and is now ONLY availible for digital download, no vinyls in the UK at least. smith and pledger - forever (mark norman and askpet mixes) only availible for DL, no vinyls ever. mike koglin & jono grant - circuits was availible for digital download before the vinyl release and now lots more exclusive mixes and unreleased works will be availible through this service. check audiojelly.com, they have exclusive tracks aswell- lustral everytime (riley & durrant 2004 mix) will only be availble on mp3, no vinyls again!

cds, cdrs and burning legal downloads to cdr's is the way forward!

and anyone who says WMA from anjuna is shit quality is talking crap. when a&B and smith and pledger have been Djing all this year they were testing out the WMA's in the clubs they played. no-ones ever mentioned the quality at all in the sets. also remember they're carefulyl encoding the tracks from the original mastered version from an non compressed state.

i would prefer .WAV's though, obviously!

I wouldn't say people who choose vinyl over CDs do so because of the sound quality. Any superior sonic signal coming from vinyl is kinda nulled by how easy they get affected by dust etc. I chose vinyl just because it's so much nicer to mix with; it's alot more 'hands on' than CDs and it feels like you have a much closer contact to the sound. I tried mixing on a CD deck once and didn't enjoy it at all.

I find the whole cd/digital situation quite depressing tbh.

The whole cd vs. vinyl argument is really old. I mean djs obviously want something to work with, because otherwise djs would just mix straight off of a laptop, if conveniance and space was such an issue.

If you ask me i think that the whole djing thing will die out in a while , but that doesnt mean EDM has to. I personally think that people will get tired of paying money to see a dj spin, and EDM will turn more and more to something similar to the style of live play that chicane does now. (im not really very sure about how chicane performs live, ive never seen them, but ive heard they are more involved eg: playing instruments...) You may now barrage me with a bunch of "Vinyl 4 eva n00b!!" replies.