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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Now you have to kiss and make up, Jon. Rude message from Jon. impossible.

Jon Rude? never I agree here, he's an awsome dude and
the craziest dancer

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Originally posted by halo20 The fact that Jeff is currently living in Toronto, is a huge Boa supporter, and had no clue Party Harlequin was a promoter speaks loudly enough from my point of view.

You're right Jon, i had no clue. As far as i knew he was just doing what i was doing. There was no announcement of sorts, but to me thats not really something that needs to be done. I do see both of your points, and youre both right in a way. What im thinking (and im speaking for myself), maybe Noah hasnt been promoting right from the get go and just didnt know if making an announcement was something the guys at Boa wanted. I think Rony & Carey (Boa owners/promoters) are doing a great job in getting the word out, and dont really need another "official promoter" posting for them on the boards. I consider myself a Boa promoter, but not by contract. Ive met the boys from Boa, chilled with Sean Miller after every set of his, and really i just feel these guys need maximum exposure. I know they dont NEED me to do what i do, but i feel that anyone i bring to the club that normally wouldnt go, is the least i can do to a club that i feel has greatly improved our scene.

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Originally posted by halo20 it is one part malicious pretending to a punter in a public msgboard when really you're 1/2 part promoter.

I went back to the start of the thread to quote this as I too feel this is a sneaky way of promoting (if you do officially promote for the club).
I mean why pretend you are just someone on the msg baord who is interest in the music is second to promoting your club in an underlining way?

From yesterdays System Thread...

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin No door between the bathrooms and the DJ booth is sorta gross also...

Jeff...they pay him to post there opinion looking like his own. How can you agree with this?

EDIT: Wouldn't it be better if promoters used this board for guestlists, and participation, feedback, etc. (Jon & Emery do this beautifully) Rather than cutroat tactics like slaggin other clubs? Ahh, the politics of dance

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Originally posted by Skipper However if it becomes apparent that the person DOES work for the club, his or her actions then speak for the club itself.

Oh really? So if you work at McDonald's and talk about food you are speaking for McDonald's itself?

I see...

EVERYONE WITH JOBS AT COMPANIES... STOP ALL COMMENTING NOW OR RISK YOUR JOBS!


Seriously.... sometimes you need to think things through.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore I consider myself a Boa promoter, but not by contract.

If you are getting paid though, I think it's reasonable to announce that you are now working for the club.

Or, at the very least, be straightforward when someone asks.

Otherwise, when it comes out eventually that you (not you specifically Jeff) work for the club, it then looks bad on the club b/c the promoter seems shady for being evasive. Make sense?

But we're all clear now anyways, so let's just be quiet and go to Boa.

I dont agree. Everyone has a right to maintain their anonymity. Do you announce the company you work for? Of course not.

Its up to the person to decide if they wish to reveal their identity by revealing their place of work.

However... the one exception is if you are a promoter and it is your job to be public about where you work. Then yes in this ONE exception id agree with you. But for anyone else including DJs, your assesment is otherwise wrong.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Oh really? So if you work at McDonald's and talk about food you are speaking for McDonald's itself? I see... EVERYONE WITH JOBS AT COMPANIES... STOP ALL COMMENTING NOW OR RISK YOUR JOBS! Seriously.... sometimes you need to think things through.

You can't equate an employee of McDonalds with a club promoter.

1. McDonalds is an international corporation with thousands of employees - the actions of one employee make a neglible difference on the reputation of the company. A club is a small business, in one community - one person being an idiot makes a much bigger difference, especially when that person is communicating on behalf of the club.

2. The promoter is PAID to make the club look good, so it pays off to be upfront and professional when interacting with potential customers, whether it be online or in person.

You seem to know a lot about politics, but somehow, know f-all about public relations and reputation management.

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Originally posted by crazedcanuck Perhaps the new event forum and sig rules are a contributing factor to those of us who promote being kept somewhat handcuffed right now as to identifying and spreading the word out that we work for clubs. Noah certainly hasn't kept it a secret, but the fact that everything is spread out right now, and the fact that you can't mention your own email addy/guestlists in your sig should anyone want to get ahold of you is bloody ridiculous, and I'm leaving my edited sig in as a protest.

Bloody ridiculous? Perhaps you don't run a forum where you have people sign up solely for the purpose of promoting their own self interests and as such put up irrelevant posts aiming to showcase their events and putting their signature in the forefront ... as a means to get people on their guestlist so that they can be compensated monetarily? Hmm? Look at Tribe - they don't even allow signatures, period.

You can mention your email in your signature, however, you cannot mention anything guestlist related - there is a WHOLE FORUM and infrastructure customly programmed specifically for that reason - sigs are meant to be a part of personal expression, not a promoters soapbox to reach the masses - if you want a banner those are available.

If people want to get a hold of you they can PM you or Email you, both of which are options configurable via your profile.

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Why don't you just put up an event in the event forum and put a link to the event in your signature?

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Last edited by Swamper on Jun-29-2004 at 14:38

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I dont agree. Everyone has a right to maintain their anonymity. Do you announce the company you work for? Of course not. Its up to the person to decide if they wish to reveal their identity by revealing their place of work. However... the one exception is if you are a promoter and it is your job to be public about where you work. Then yes in this ONE exception id agree with you. But for anyone else including DJs, your assesment is otherwise wrong.

OK, well he is a promoter.

Point made.

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Originally posted by Skipper You can't equate an employee of McDonalds with a club promoter. 1. McDonalds is an international corporation with thousands of employees - the actions of one employee make a neglible difference on the reputation of the company. A club is a small business, in one community - one person being an idiot makes a much bigger difference, especially when that person is communicating on behalf of the club. 2. The promoter is PAID to make the club look good, so it pays off to be upfront and professional when interacting with potential customers, whether it be online or in person. You seem to know a lot about politics, but somehow, know f-all about public relations and reputation management.

Again, ONLY if the person's job is that of a promoter do i agree with you. It's their job to make the club's image. Otherwise i disagree. I make many statements that both concur and disagree with the management of my job. That is my right as a private citizen to do so.