hard trance is a disgrace to EDM

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Originally posted by teknoking hard trance is a disgrace to EDM

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Originally posted by teknoking hard trance is a disgrace to EDM

how so?

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Originally posted by T-1000 Dumonde is NOT hard trance. Neither is Uberdruck Uberdruck is Hard Techno, i.e. Schranz

rofl, thats ridiculous! some people need genre teaching here :P

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Originally posted by Polak uberdruck is hardstyle ...

wroooooong!

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Originally posted by Simcut wroooooong!

what would you say about a ""group"" called DHHD?

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Originally posted by teknoking hard trance is a disgrace to EDM

You're an idiot.

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Originally posted by Polak uberdruck is hardstyle ...

I can see why you would think so, but NO!

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Originally posted by Polak what would you say about a ""group"" called DHHD?

DHHD are a Hardstyle act. Uberdruck are german hard trance

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Here's my definition:

Hard trance comes in two flavours, European and UK hard trance. European hard trance puts the emphasis on the "trance", while UK hard trance puts the emphasis on the "hard". European hard trance is like most epic or anthem trance, but the kick is harder and bassier, and the bassline is tougher. The BPM is higher and there tends to be harder sounds instead of uplifting sounds. UK hard trance is essentially hard house but with more melody, and more trancy synths instead of hard house synths.

Hardstyle is different to hard trance- I personally reckon it's closer to hardcore than anything. It has very harsh kicks and the snare drums tend to have a rough sound. There's also "bouncy" and saw effects in there, and the lead doesn't have much hook to it. There are a lot of cheesier hardcore elements as well- like daft vocals.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J European hard trance puts the emphasis on the "trance", while UK hard trance puts the emphasis on the "hard". European hard trance is like most epic or anthem trance, but the kick is harder and bassier, and the bassline is tougher. The BPM is higher and there tends to be harder sounds instead of uplifting sounds. UK hard trance is essentially hard house but with more melody, and more trancy synths instead of hard house synths.

If that's anything to go by then I think UK > European

I've hated everything I've ever heard by Scot Project & Cosmic Gate, does absolutely sweet FA for me, whereas the trancier tunes I've heard from artists like BK & to a lesser extent Guyver really get me hyped up with energy.

I like hard as in fast & energetic, not hard as in heavy & tough, you could say.

I agree, UK hard trance is better than European hard trance.

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