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The Highroller
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Flying over the cuckoo's nest

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
I love canada and im old enough to remember how it used to be. I just dont like where its headed


Dude, you sound like my fucking grandpa. lol...

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

Well sadly my eyes are a bit wider open than most i guess.

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Rodrico
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Well sadly my eyes are a bit wider open than most i guess.


Maybe a bit more senile there too, gramps...

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sufee_b
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Fluff City
Re: Being nice

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
A few recent immigrants have recently told me their thoughts on niceness in Canada. Their conclusion? That people are nt very nice and in fact are down right cold. The reason? well it seems that when you are nice people take advantage of you like crazy.

This is absolutely true. It was a wierd change living overseas where EVERYONE seemed to be overwhelmingly nice and didnt expect anything in return. The hardest part was trying to keep up with the niceness since growing up in Canada numbs you to it.

I compare my old apartment in Argentina that had 5 other apartments in the building. When i moved in the neighbours knocked on the door to welcome me. One neighbour who was very poor baked me a cake before she even knew who i was. The neighbours kids came over all the time for peanut butter sandwiches and kool ade (2 things i brought with me that dont exist in argentina).

Ive lived in my new place for 3 weeks now and there are 25 apartments in this building. The one neighbour i did run into practically ran away when i said hello to them. The only person who knocked on my door was trying to sell me gas (i have electric and no gas LOL). Im still waiting for my cake too. The only kids ive seen are 10 year olds smoking up under the stairs in the lobby.

Its sad


So true, but not just Canada, but U.S as well (but Toronto is extremely cold in that sense)...i guess its the thug wannabe, urban immature attitude, i dont know. But almost n e where else you go to (Europe, S.A, East Asia, South Asia, Middle East) the people are generally more nice, warm and easy to talk to, especially the youth.


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Old Post Aug-06-2004 05:22  Canada
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Rodrico
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Re: Re: Being nice

quote:
Originally posted by sufee_b
So true, but not just Canada, but U.S as well (but Toronto is extremely cold in that sense)...i guess its the thug wannabe, urban immature attitude, i dont know. But almost n e where else you go to (Europe, S.A, East Asia, South Asia, Middle East) the people are generally more nice, warm and easy to talk to, especially the youth.


Talk about your all time, right outta your ass reasonings...you said it best at, "i dont know."

You cannot blame wanna-be thugs for all of Toronto's rude behavior.

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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Re: Being nice

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
A few recent immigrants have recently told me their thoughts on niceness in Canada. Their conclusion? That people are nt very nice and in fact are down right cold. The reason? well it seems that when you are nice people take advantage of you like crazy.

This is absolutely true. It was a wierd change living overseas where EVERYONE seemed to be overwhelmingly nice and didnt expect anything in return. The hardest part was trying to keep up with the niceness since growing up in Canada numbs you to it.

I compare my old apartment in Argentina that had 5 other apartments in the building. When i moved in the neighbours knocked on the door to welcome me. One neighbour who was very poor baked me a cake before she even knew who i was. The neighbours kids came over all the time for peanut butter sandwiches and kool ade (2 things i brought with me that dont exist in argentina).

Ive lived in my new place for 3 weeks now and there are 25 apartments in this building. The one neighbour i did run into practically ran away when i said hello to them. The only person who knocked on my door was trying to sell me gas (i have electric and no gas LOL). Im still waiting for my cake too. The only kids ive seen are 10 year olds smoking up under the stairs in the lobby.

Its sad


i will comment on this one again after living in canada for some time, but i still guess you are far more nicer than the swedes...

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Rodrico
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Damn the swedish!

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Max Q
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Burlington
Re: Re: Re: Being nice

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
You cannot blame wanna-be thugs for all of Toronto's rude behavior.


yes you can




















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Rodrico
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yes you can






















Ill will rephrase that then...you cannot blame them all and be right.

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sufee_b
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Fluff City
Re: Re: Re: Being nice

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Talk about your all time, right outta your ass reasonings...you said it best at, "i dont know."

You cannot blame wanna-be thugs for all of Toronto's rude behavior.


I dont blame em for all, i never said that, only most. Bottom line...Toronto is a shit hole compared to most places in this regard


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

I think as Graham stated, the term "nice" is really the wrong word for what Jay is trying to say. Nevertheless I do see his point.

People in Toronto have their guards up at all times. I do too. It's like this in many places all over Ontario, Kingston and Ottawa too. I haven't really been overseas, except for Israel which would be like comparing apples and oranges here, but I have been to a few small towns and noticed the difference even there. I spent a large part of one summer in Wolfville, Nova Scotia and it was almost like a different world.

Nobody was ever in much of a hurry. You always saw people chatting outside, on the street. Strangers always said hello to me and to each other. I saw drivers stopping for pedestrians who were clearly jaywalking, without any honking or indication of road rage. I remember going out with two friends I made that summer and getting two police officers to take a picture of me getting "arrested" (you try doing that with the Toronto police). All in all, it just seemed like a completely different way of life.

Personally, I think that the more a community expands, the less we see of this. It's not necessarily about the state of the economy, or about the geographic location - it's just that when an area is saturated with people (like Toronto), the feel of community is lost, and modern communications technology allows many less densely populated places to succumb to this same fate.

It may sound contradictory, but from my experience, larger crowds (real or perceived) tend to make people more self-conscious and self-centered. I can even relate to this on a personal level just from my university classes - the ones with 10 or 20 people, there was a lot of socializing between everyone; the ones with 100 or 200 people, there were many isolated cliques and isolated individuals but no real "vibe" to it.

Why do you think people are more friendly at System and at Boa than they are at the Guvernment? Okay, it's true that they cater to different crowds, but it's not just the crowd itself, it's also the size of it. When you're amid a sea of unfamiliar faces you just get a little scared and thus introverted. That's what people in a city like Toronto deal with on a daily basis, so it's easy to understand why they're always on edge.

I'd like to move to a smaller town sometime. But being a city boy myself, it can be very hard to get used to that way of life on a long-term basis. You have to completely change who you are and, to a greater extent, the way you view the outside world.


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LKD
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Its June 18th, 2005, I'm at the Skybar

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Z
You knock on your neighbour's door, they answer with "WHAT?"


mine says "bon jour ???"

no hes philipino

and ya..people arent nice..back in teh UAE (which is anything but a poor country), if u stood in an elevator with someone and u didnt acknowledge theri presence with a hello or replied to theri hello even if u didnt know them, it was taken as an offence....

there was a time when our car broke down on an interstate highway and we were helped by this guy who was being driven by his personal chauffer....


being poor isnt the foundation for niceness...its the culture

UK, USA and Canada (since those were the ones mentioned) are so "un nice" cos of the fact that theres so much of a mix of culture that its hard for many to relate to each other because of differences in customs, traditions and so on.


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