ERM....

Regarding the comments made above about Kuffdam & Plant moaning about a leaked track? Not true....

Neither myself or Plant have ever complained on this forum regarding a track being leaked or not.... we accept it...

Nothing can be done to stop the advance of mp3 accross the world and to be totally honest with you, with out this technology we simply wouldn't be working with each other.

Kuffdam & Plant are base 1000's of miles apart and rely on this technology in order to maintain a working relationship that we have and are used to.....

With regards that track being leaked.... the track was doing nothing anyway so why would we complain. I would rather people heard it, used it and did what they liked with it rather than it remain on my hard drive for ever more.... that said, we weren't the people behind the leak but as long as you give out demo's... people will leak tracks...

MP3's are here to stay, you can't ignore than...

Kuff

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Originally posted by Kuffdam ERM.... Regarding the comments made above about Kuffdam & Plant moaning about a leaked track? Not true.... Neither myself or Plant have ever complained on this forum regarding a track being leaked or not.... we accept it... Nothing can be done to stop the advance of mp3 accross the world and to be totally honest with you, with out this technology we simply wouldn't be working with each other. Kuffdam & Plant are base 1000's of miles apart and rely on this technology in order to maintain a working relationship that we have and are used to..... With regards that track being leaked.... the track was doing nothing anyway so why would we complain. I would rather people heard it, used it and did what they liked with it rather than it remain on my hard drive for ever more.... that said, we weren't the people behind the leak but as long as you give out demo's... people will leak tracks... MP3's are here to stay, you can't ignore than... Kuff

when i read one of your past threads regarding point zero it seemed like you were moaning at the time when in fact you werent. so i apologise.

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Originally posted by Radagast So much for doing it for the sake of art. All he cares about are the dollar signs.

dude, fuck that... if you invested your hard time and money into it and were trying to support yourself and/or your famiily, you would understand where he is coming from.

i truthfully have no problem with people dling music to "sample" the song, but i strongly support buying music to support the artist... i have spent over 6,000 dollars just this past year in music.

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Originally posted by Radagast So much for doing it for the sake of art. All he cares about are the dollar signs.

it's important for the release to at least break even, forget making a profit, nobody on earth would release a vinyl if they intended to make a loss on it, it's not good business in any terms

Not all producers are rolling in riches.

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Originally posted by keithos27 dude, fuck that... if you invested your hard time and money into it and were trying to support yourself and/or your famiily, you would understand where he is coming from.

I would get a real job then in addition to DJing/ producing. Most DJs don't have a schedule as busy as sasha or pvd for that matter, I'm sure there's some spare time for another job.

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- hello and welcome glad u cud join us this is a state of trance episode blah blah blah
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Originally posted by Azz3D I would get a real job then in addition to DJing/ producing. Most DJs don't have a schedule as busy as sasha or pvd for that matter, I'm sure there's some spare time for another job.

Smart move in editing your post.

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Like others have said, you must take a share of the blame as well, because it was your label that put the promo copy into the ripper's hands to begin with. Unless you keep your track completely locked away until its release, you run the risk of it being leaked. That may not be fair, but that's just the way things work. Of course, the ripper is the real one to blame.

As for downloaders, this is the filesharing age, there's simply no way around it. But I honestly beleive that mp3s help the industry a lot. It's pretty much free exposure. People who would have otherwise never heard the track might hear it, like it, and go buy it. They might not like it enough to buy it then, but whenever that artist/label puts out another release it might grab their attention and they'll buy that one.

It was mp3 sharing that introduced me to EDM. Prior to then, I never really bought any CDs because there weren't any that I cared for here in Bumfuck, USA. But thanks to filesharing, I'm now hooked on this crazy computer music. I've bought many more CDs in the past few years than I have in my entire life. I've also plunked down about $1200 on turntables and $700-800 total on vinyl, which I buy on a regular basis. The industry wouldn't have seen one cent from me if it wasn't for rampant mp3 sharing.

How do you know DJ Celica wouldn't have been first in line at the record store to buy it the day it came out? It's unfair to assume that everyone who downloads doesn't buy. I've been rocking my mp3 copy of James Zabiela - Alive for 2 weeks now. Just came out in the US today. After I post this I'm going to check my bank acct, then swing over to Amazon and pick it up.

The real theives are DJs who download tracks, burn them, and then spin them at gigs for profit. But I see nothing wrong with kids in their bedrooms downloading tracks and mixing them in traktor to share with their buddies.

The real problem here is lack of alternative. It's unrealistic to expect the average joe listener to purchase vinyl these days. Most don't even own turntables. Companies like BeatPort are already leading the way - if more would follow suit, sharing would be less of an issue.

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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Smart move in editing your post.

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Summary of an ASOT episode:

- The newest tunes selected!!!! the hottest tracks in a row!!!! here is your host arrrrrmin van buuuuuuuuhreeennnnnhnnhhn
- hello and welcome glad u cud join us this is a state of trance episode blah blah blah
- waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaah whineeeeeeeeeeeee blah blaaaaaaaaah
- that was the newest track by blah bla and before that was blaaaaaaah
- waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....the end
Vomit-inducing trifecta tunage: Zocalo | Summer Dream | Shivers

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Originally posted by Nell i just did a quick search, seems like the track is in massive circulation now... i think you have too much trust in your promo list DJ's.

off topic:
lol, i recognise mostve the names airbrushed out here
i think i need to get out more

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