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bass drive
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from what I know and have seen, Arabs are put together because the language and religion, but most of the Arabs today were not originally Arab. Like the true arabs are the people from Yemin or something like that, the rest were taught

Also, Arabs look different. some people from Syria and Lebanon I know looked like Greek or South Italian, while Sudanese or South Egyptian looked almost black.

I am not totally sure though, maybe some Arabs here can confirm this?

btw Malek, hope you don't take offence to this, but you look like a Turk (Turkic eyes)

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Re: Arabs vs. Turks vs. Persians

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Originally posted by nimblehuman
Hello folks, even though this is a really old thread I thought I could clear up a little bit of the confusion surrounding what distinguishes an Arab from a Turk from a Persian.

Arabs are a Semitic people, making them related from the Semitic-speaking people of Akkad and Assyria (though not Sumer, whose language is related to no other language). The closest living relatives of the Arabs are therefore the Jews, and one can see similarities between Hebrew and Arabic even after just a brief look at some of their word lists.

Persians, on the other hand, are descended from the people of the ancient land of Fars (hence, the language is still called 'Farsi'). The word 'Fars' was corrupted to 'Persia' by the Greeks and later the Romans. Farsi is an Aryan language, and in fact the term 'Iran' comes from a Farsi term meaning 'Land of the Arya'. Although centuries of intermarriage have somewhat dulled the racial distinction between Arabs and Persians living in proximity to each other, the Persians are still a definitely more European-looking people than the Arabs.

The Turks are descended from Central Asian nomads who were pushed further west starting in the 10th century under pressure from the rapidly-expanding Mongols. One tribe of Turks, the Seljuk, conquered most of Anatolia (Asia Minor or modern Turkey, then populated by Greek-speaking Ionians)in 1071. Another, the Osmanli (known to
Western history as 'Ottoman'), vanquished the remnants of the Byzantine Empire in 1453, taking over Constantinople and renaming it Istanbul. The fact that what is now Turkey was populated almost entirely by people of Greek ancestry (in Persian and Urdu even today, the word for 'Greek' is 'Yunani', or Ionian) explains the bitter enmity between these two peoples that persists to this day.

Linguistically, the Turks belong to the Altaic language family, which also includes the various Mongol languages as well as all the Turkic languages of Central Asia (Azeri, Uzbek, Kazakh, Turkmen, Kyrgyz and Uighur, to name a few) and possibly Japanese and Korean (this classification is still disputed). Their ancestors were probably very East Asian in appearance, but centuries of conquest and intermarriage have made the modern Turks much more like other Mediterranean people in their appearance.

So in a nutshell, Arabs, Persians and Turks come from different ancestries and their languages are all wildly different from each other. You might not be able to tell one from the other just by appearance, but with a little practice it becomes a cinch to identify whether a person is one or the other as soon as they speak.

I myself am half Pakistani (dad's side); he is Punjabi by ethnicity and language, so I speak Urdu and Punjabi because of him. Urdu itself is a Turkish word meaning 'army encampment', as the language is based on Hindi grammar but contains many loan words from the languages of various Muslim invaders of India, including Arabic, Persian and Turkish. Punjabis are generally somewhat darker than Persians; of the four main ethnic groups in Pakistan, the Pashtun and Balochi people are more like the Persians or people of the Caucasus (e.g. Chechens) while the Sindhi and Punjabi people are closer to India in both their appearance and linguistic affiliation.

I hope this helps!

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we want pics!!!!


Shannon Elizabeth Syrian


Anna Faris Lebanese


wendie malick from just shoot me she's Egyptian

Paula Abdul

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and her ass

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Originally posted by bass drive
btw Malek, hope you don't take offence to this, but you look like a Turk (Turkic eyes)


My grandparents and great grand parents lived in Turkey, they must've mingled with Turks and Armenians. Actually, its only with my grandfather that the family started to speak arabic (they spoke aramaic and turkish).

Most people say i look italian (95%) or Greek (5%)

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if someone could post some pictures of each ethnic group (and not just hot women ), that would help. like, I want to know what Saudi's look like, Iraqi, Persians, Moroccons etc.

EDIT: I can ususally tell Indias and Pakistani's apart from everyone else but can't really distinguish between other arabs (yes, I know Pakistani's and Indians are not arab). I have too vague an idea what arabs form diff parts of the arab world look like.

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persian women? no way

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persian women? no way

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http://cybersix.dyndns.org/Presenta...uriau-1005a.jpg

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she probably has hairy armpits and legs


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she probably has hairy armpits and legs

better that than facial hair

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